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Old 02-19-2012, 10:25 AM
 
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Well if planning was so great in Dallas
I didn't say planning was "great" in dallas. I just said that it is better than Houston's and I stand by that. For the record, I'm from Houston.

 
Old 02-19-2012, 11:22 AM
 
Location: The land of sugar... previously Houston and Austin
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I didn't say planning was "great" in dallas. I just said that it is better than Houston's and I stand by that. For the record, I'm from Houston.
You sure you don't mean zoning and appearances, rather than planning?
 
Old 02-19-2012, 11:36 AM
 
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Old 02-19-2012, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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It's a no-brainer that Dallas has more urban development than Houston.
 
Old 02-19-2012, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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I don't find Dallas to have more or better urban development than Houston. Maybe you are seeing effects of their zoning, as someone else said. Dallas is notoriously known for trying so hard to keep a good appearance and sweeping their dirt under the rug. I personally prefer the realness and more organic and relaxed feel of Austin and Houston. Austin has zoning but it's perhaps not as obvious or strict as it is in Dallas.

Even if Dallas may "look" nicer on the surface, I think Houston is superior in culture, arts, food, and overall vibe. Houston's foliage and trees are much better too.

I don't think Houston people are apathetic, just in the last decade Houston seems to have undergone huge changes for the better. Houston got closer than Dallas for hosting the Olympics, and Houston was a better host city for the Super Bowl. Houston's walkscore is higher than Dallas' and Austin's. Houston's public transit has higher ridership than Dallas', and the light rail is still well ahead of Austin and San Antonio. Speaking of, have you forgotten that it was your Tom Delay who diverted light rail funds from Houston to Dallas? There you go.
Dallas and Houston restaurants are pretty much tied. Neighborhoods in Dallas do look cleaner and better crafted than Houston neighborhoods.

Fashion, radio/television and urban development is better in Dallas.

Houston is more international, diverse and has better fine arts than Dallas.

Both cities have it's pros and cons but Dallas edges Houston in terms of urban development.
 
Old 02-19-2012, 12:14 PM
 
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Growing up in Houston, I never got the competition between Dallas and Houston. Then we moved to Dallas.

It is way easier to live in Dallas. They do city government better than Houston. DH liked the fact that he could get to work downtown without being tethered to a freeway.

Much of "Houston" is in unincorporated Harris County. Harris County is not nearly as consumer friendly as either the COH or Dallas.

The Dallas Morning News recognizes that it has readers all over the Metro. The Chronicle just about ignores vast areas of Harris, Montgomery and Ft. Bend counties. The Chronicle and the COH are ITL organizations. Not much thought is given to the rest of the community.
 
Old 02-19-2012, 12:29 PM
 
Location: ITL (Houston)
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Dallas and Houston restaurants are pretty much tied. Neighborhoods in Dallas do look cleaner and better crafted than Houston neighborhoods.

Fashion, radio/television and urban development is better in Dallas.

Houston is more international, diverse and has better fine arts than Dallas.

Both cities have it's pros and cons but Dallas edges Houston in terms of urban development.
How is Dallas far ahead in urban development? Dallas is ahead in TODs, but that's it. Houston just has a larger urban core, so the developments are more spread out. In a few more years, as more developments continue to pop up and as the rail lines in the Inner Loop open up, then they different "urban nodes" will be more connected.

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Growing up in Houston, I never got the competition between Dallas and Houston. Then we moved to Dallas.

It is way easier to live in Dallas. They do city government better than Houston. DH liked the fact that he could get to work downtown without being tethered to a freeway.

Much of "Houston" is in unincorporated Harris County. Harris County is not nearly as consumer friendly as either the COH or Dallas.

The Dallas Morning News recognizes that it has readers all over the Metro. The Chronicle just about ignores vast areas of Harris, Montgomery and Ft. Bend counties. The Chronicle and the COH are ITL organizations. Not much thought is given to the rest of the community.
Anyone can look at a map and see that what you saying is false. Houston has a huge grid layout, even outside the city limits and in the unincorporated areas. And the Chronicle is all over Metro Houston. I've seen it everywhere when I lived down there.
 
Old 02-19-2012, 12:52 PM
 
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Cool urban development in Dallas.
Downtown Dallas Commercial Real Estate | The Spire Dallas
 
Old 02-19-2012, 01:37 PM
 
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How is Dallas far ahead in urban development? Dallas is ahead in TODs, but that's it. Houston just has a larger urban core, so the developments are more spread out. In a few more years, as more developments continue to pop up and as the rail lines in the Inner Loop open up, then they different "urban nodes" will be more connected.



Anyone can look at a map and see that what you saying is false. Houston has a huge grid layout, even outside the city limits and in the unincorporated areas. And the Chronicle is all over Metro Houston. I've seen it everywhere when I lived down there.
You are chitin me, right.

Tell me how to get from Bellaire to Baytown avoiding freeways. Show me 3 ways to get from Hobby Airport to Champions without a freeway. Can't take all day, either.

Just look at the discussion regarding to Grand Parkway on CD. Folks here referred to Houston highways as a target.

I was speaking of editorial, not circulation. You know, what the paper covers. Things like news, government, sports. The DMN recognized it's readers lived all over the metroplex. They even put a big office with reporters, etc. in Plano.
 
Old 02-19-2012, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Louisiana to Houston to Denver to NOVA
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You are chitin me, right.

Tell me how to get from Bellaire to Baytown avoiding freeways. Show me 3 ways to get from Hobby Airport to Champions without a freeway. Can't take all day, either.
Type it in one of many mapping or GPS devices and avoid freeways. You can avoid them in every city and much of the time it's a slower and longer ride. Dallas is somehow special because of this?
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