Thanks Perry for screwing our kids' future (education)

[crbcrbrgv]

I knew a lot of kids at University of Michigan from Texas. They were always in tutorials.

Texas schools may prepare you for UT and A&M, but outside of Texas is a different story.

[DejaBlue]

Originally Posted by Oildog

Maybe we should focus schools back on what they should be used for. Reading, Writing and Math. Not special interst group socializing or self esteem building. Nor feeding the poor. If a kid doesn't want to be there, give him/her a job working 8s cleaning or picking up trash. Gives them an idea what there vocational options are when 'they grow up'. Would cut down on the amount of baby sitting time teachers are forced to do, as well as keep the class full of students willing to pay attention to what the teacher is doing.

Now that's a good idea. Too bad it would never happen.

Schools really are a daycare aren't they? Even high schools. It's sad.

[Dopo]

Originally Posted by DejaBlue

Schools really are a daycare aren't they? Even high schools. It's sad.

First you need to remove the law that says that all kids under 17 have to go to school.
I don't think 8 hours of picking up trash counts as "being in school"

[testmo]

Originally Posted by crbcrbrgv

I knew a lot of kids at University of Michigan from Texas. They were always in tutorials.

Texas schools may prepare you for UT and A&M, but outside of Texas is a different story.

is that why UT's engineering programs are higher ranked than Michigan?

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overall Texas education sucks and is near the bottom for the nation. but we aren't all a bunch of illiterates. we do have some good schools and pump out some awesome students. the problem is there is a HUGE disparity

[MDinTelfair]

Actually Texas in about in the middle. We would be much higher ranked, but the illegal populations and first generation of kids of illegals are taxing the school systems in Texas. California was in the top 10 30 years ago. Now they are in the bottom third. People always brag about how "great" school up north are, but the fact is, many of them do not have to deal with the vast influx of illegal and our laws require us to educate them....In majority of the schools in HISD they are teaching kids at the elementary level in Spanish. I am not saying I know the solution to the problem.

I can tell you Texas Universities produce more engineers (especially in the oil and gas disciplines) then all other states. Where are all those "better" educated folks up north coming for jobs....Down south. It wonderful to get a great education, then take advantage of the opportunities it will open for you...in the SOUTH

One of my best moves ever was moving to Texas.

Originally Posted by testmo

is that why UT's engineering programs are higher ranked than Michigan?

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overall Texas education sucks and is near the bottom for the nation. but we aren't all a bunch of illiterates. we do have some good schools and pump out some awesome students. the problem is there is a HUGE disparity

[DejaBlue]

The Texas education problem can really be roughly summed up like this:

K-12 = sucks. No joke. It's really bad because of the uneveness. Oh sure, certain districts are good and certain schools are "good" but there's SO many bad and really crappy schools and districts it just brings the whole state down.

Post 12 = not too shabby to good to really good. We really do have some good and great colleges and universities but those are a choice. Primary and secondary isn't. That's required and they as a whole suck.

Texas is a great place to get a college education but as far as raising kids K-12 not so much unless you get them in a great district and great schools.

And that's a problem because it's always a "well, our zoned elementary is great but the high school looks like Dangerous Minds." You have to shop around and move around. Stay put for 5 years then move for middle school then move again for high school.

[testmo]

Originally Posted by MDinTelfair

Actually Texas in about in the middle. We would be much higher ranked, but the illegal populations and first generation of kids of illegals are taxing the school systems in Texas. California was in the top 10 30 years ago. Now they are in the bottom third. People always brag about how "great" school up north are, but the fact is, many of them do not have to deal with the vast influx of illegal and our laws require us to educate them....In majority of the schools in HISD they are teaching kids at the elementary level in Spanish. I am not saying I know the solution to the problem.

I can tell you Texas Universities produce more engineers (especially in the oil and gas disciplines) then all other states. Where are all those "better" educated folks up north coming for jobs....Down south. It wonderful to get a great education, then take advantage of the opportunities it will open for you...in the SOUTH

One of my best moves ever was moving to Texas.

no i am talking about actual national rankings. UT has hovered at number 1 or close to it since the 1980s. when my father went in 1982 it was number 1 and UT was number 1 when i went

dont bring up an illogical illegal immigrant diatribe (loving hearing yankees spout off about this)

[kippa]

anyone know of a free link with rankings for the k-12. found one but it needs paid subscription. i am in GA and looking to relocate, we also have our issues in GA.

[LostInHouston]

Originally Posted by testmo

is that why UT's engineering programs are higher ranked than Michigan?

Huh? I think you need to check that again.

2012 USNews rankings:
Engineering Undergrad overall: Michigan #6, UT not in top 10
Engineering Graduate overall: Michigan and UT tied at #8

Then if you look at specialties, Michigan is ranked hire than UT at most (Aero, Mechanical, Materials, Electrical, Computer, Nuclear), with the exception of civil and chemical.

UT's a great engineering school, and they aren't far behind Michigan... but they are behind.

[crbcrbrgv]

Originally Posted by testmo

is that why UT's engineering programs are higher ranked than Michigan?

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overall Texas education sucks and is near the bottom for the nation. but we aren't all a bunch of illiterates. we do have some good schools and pump out some awesome students. the problem is there is a HUGE disparity

I didn't say you were illiterates. I was just stating what I observed.

As far as I'm concerned, a flagship university whose state's number one product is oil better damned well have a great engineering program.