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Old 03-30-2012, 03:06 PM
 
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That's an overused misconception regarding scientific theories. A scientific theory is not a hunch/guess/conjecture... it is not an untested hypothesis.

While the very nature of the scientific method ensures that scientific theories are falsifiable, they are only accepted after validation through observation, experiment and after being subjected to an extensive peer-review process. Gravity is a scientific theory... stating that there are purple elephants living on the far side of Pluto is not.
Leave the crazy talk out of this.
This is a discussion between mature, educated people.
No one is talking about purple elephants, and no need to try and bring some strawman argument in here to make a point.

The best guess, as of today, is the big bang theory.
Science is not developed enough yet to know if that is true or not.
There are things we simply don't understand yet.
Either way, the science class is teaching something that is not necessarily a known fact.
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Old 03-30-2012, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Houston, Tx
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Make no mistake. Religious conservatives would love to inject their beliefs into public school resources.

This is what they've managed to to so far.

Bible class rules set for Texas schools - US news - Faith - msnbc.com

It's a elective class, nobody is forced to take it. Why would anybody have a problem with elective classes about religion, or did you just want to come in here to bash christians?
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Old 03-30-2012, 03:11 PM
 
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Leave the crazy talk out of this.
This is a discussion between mature, educated people.
No one is talking about purple elephants, and no need to try and bring some strawman argument in here to make a point.

The best guess, as of today, is the big bang theory.
Science is not developed enough yet to know if that is true or not.
There are things we simply don't understand yet.
Either way, the science class is teaching something that is not necessarily a known fact.
A science class is no place to teach religious theories. Scientific theories fine, but not religious ones.
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Old 03-30-2012, 03:11 PM
 
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Or you could have them learn several different views on any particular subject matter and be more well-rounded for it.

It's ironic that you can't see that people that are so adamant about only teaching evolution are just as stubborn and backwards as people that are adamant about only teaching intelligent design.
ID shouldn't be taught in science class, anymore than English should be taught in science class.

This isn't one iota of science in ID. For you to suggest that students would be more "rounded" by learning about ID in science class is absurd.
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Old 03-30-2012, 03:14 PM
 
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I am not some religious zealot that is set in my ways and beliefs.

I just always find it funny that one set of people have so much faith in their theory and deride someone else's theory.

They are both theories, impossible to prove.
You obviously don't know the definition of scientific theory (versus theory in the vague, speculative sense). You're a librarian, look it up.
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Old 03-30-2012, 03:15 PM
 
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lostinhouston

Unless you were there, you have no idea at all how the earth came into being.

Big bang is a theory.
It is taught in the science section of class.
Scientists have absolutely no clue if there is any basis in reality with the big bang theory, hence the word theory attached there.
OMG....like the "theory" of gravity?

You seriously don't know what the word "theory" entails.

A thing can be both "theory" and "fact" as this scientist well explains. http://sandwalk.blogspot.com/2007/03...n-is-fact.html
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Old 03-30-2012, 03:19 PM
 
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It's a elective class, nobody is forced to take it. Why would anybody have a problem with elective classes about religion, or did you just want to come in here to bash christians?
I don't think anyone would have a problem if all faiths were discussed, but the article itself states that most classes have a Christian bias. Could you imagine the outcry if there were Islamic classes?
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Old 03-30-2012, 03:23 PM
 
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I don't think anyone would have a problem if all faiths were discussed, but the article itself states that most classes have a Christian bias. Could you imagine the outcry if there were Islamic classes?
An "elective" class would use school resources would it not? Taking my tax dollars to promote Christian mythology.
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Old 03-30-2012, 03:30 PM
 
Location: city-suburbia west...Houston, TX
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I think the OP was a troll to begin with.
And a successful troll at that.
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Old 03-30-2012, 03:32 PM
 
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An "elective" class would use school resources would it not? Taking my tax dollars to promote Christian mythology.
True - but most elective classes seem to be to explore an interest rather than a core subject.

I would prefer that religion is kept out of schools as I think it promotes exclusion rather than inclusion but if it is to be offered as an elective class it should encompass all religions.
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