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Old 07-04-2013, 08:41 PM
 
Location: The Bayou City
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BINGO :-) All of that is already in works getting closer to be finalized.
wow, i kind of wish they would just build another tower on the parking lot between Chevron and Exxonmobil, keeping the campus a little closer together instead of separating the executives from the rest of campus by an entire city block. i suppose if they are able to build a big podium over Louisiana and Milam though it might not be too bad. hopefully they make it majority green space on top of the podium. does this mean the renovations to the Exxonmobil building are likely to include the same facade as the rest of Chevrons campus? i wonder if they will retain the "shades" in the design. many people really seem to love that part of the architecture.
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Old 07-04-2013, 09:09 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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This company posted stills of the renovated bldg and then pulled them after news got out that they did not have the contract. But there are a few stills - does have the blue-ish glass. No, the Renovated Bell St. ExxonMobil Building Is Not Gonna Look Like This » Swamplot: Houston's Real Estate Landscape
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Old 07-05-2013, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Rocky Mountain Xplorer
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Everyone hates big petroleum companies. It doesn't matter if you live in San Fran or Oklahoma City. Big oil screws us all. You don't have to be a treehugger to feel that way.
I wouldn't be surprised if everyone in San Fran hates big petro, nevertheless millions and millions of US citizens which probably includes most of OKC folks appreciate and are thankful for the employment opportunities and life styles they have because of big petro. And what I'm absolutely sure of is that very few if OKC residents ever spat on our boys coming home from Nam.
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I also think you over do it with the generalization that an oil CEO will miserable in San Fran. If the guy is rich he will be treated like royalty no matter where he lives and that includes San Fran.
The wealthier a man or woman might be, if they came by it by way of the petroleum industry they would be viewed as even more of a cultural pariah than one of relatively modest means who might also be employed by the industry. Some places have Christianity, others might be dominated by the Islamic faith, but in the Bay Area Green for all practical persons is the dominant religion.
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Old 07-05-2013, 01:02 PM
 
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BINGO :-) All of that is already in works getting closer to be finalized.
So is Chevron going to buy the exxon building from Shorenstein Properties ? Or are they going to lease it ?
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Old 07-05-2013, 01:33 PM
 
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ROTFL

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...r_construction
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Old 07-05-2013, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Houston
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I wouldn't be surprised if everyone in San Fran hates big petro, nevertheless millions and millions of US citizens which probably includes most of OKC folks appreciate and are thankful for the employment opportunities and life styles they have because of big petro. And what I'm absolutely sure of is that very few if OKC residents ever spat on our boys coming home from Nam.

The wealthier a man or woman might be, if they came by it by way of the petroleum industry they would be viewed as even more of a cultural pariah than one of relatively modest means who might also be employed by the industry. Some places have Christianity, others might be dominated by the Islamic faith, but in the Bay Area Green for all practical persons is the dominant religion.
This isn't the 70s. You can't judge an entire city on what some idiots did back then. You'll find all types of people in every big city across the country. Most people in most cities (including San Fran) appreciate employment opportunities. People can appreciate employment opportunities and at the same time hate the fat cats that run big petro.

The main point is that a big oil CEO won't be treated any differently in San Fran than they would in any city in the U.S. because when it all comes down to it money will lead you a pretty amazing lifestyle especially when you are a billionaire. The only difference is being a billionaire in San Fran will be a little more fun seeing how it's a world class city. But really it doesn't matter that much because for a billionaire the whole world will be his playground to travel and live as he likes.

Also religion shouldn't have anything to do with this. All the major cities with numerous fortune 500 companies have a good mix of every religion and also have their own sizable Green population.
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Old 07-06-2013, 04:03 AM
 
Location: Sugar Land
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Ideally for them is to buy and tear down. Not worth renovating the building which got some environmental baggage as well. Negotiation in works now



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So is Chevron going to buy the exxon building from Shorenstein Properties ? Or are they going to lease it ?
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Old 07-06-2013, 07:07 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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So far the plans are not to tear it down but to take it to the ground - a friend called Shorenstein and asked. Not sure why he wanted to know what they planned to do with it; he just did - so he called and asked. The anchors to the slab run underneath the parking lots on all four sides which is why artist's renderings of new building appear to be the same size and shape.
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Old 07-06-2013, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Rocky Mountain Xplorer
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The main point is that a big oil CEO won't be treated any differently in San Fran than they would in any city in the U.S. because when it all comes down to it money will lead you a pretty amazing lifestyle especially when you are a billionaire. The only difference is being a billionaire in San Fran will be a little more fun seeing how it's a world class city. But really it doesn't matter that much because for a billionaire the whole world will be his playground to travel and live as he likes.
The company announced in April that it was eliminating 400 jobs in San Ramon, or about 11 percent of its employees in the city, as it relocated operations.
Chevron currently has about 9,000 employees and contractors in Houston, where nine of its businesses are based.
Chevron to build Houston skyscraper - San Francisco Business Times
I don't deny that the Bay Area is a beautiful and spectacular region with a moderate climate and many varied outdoor recreational opportunities. But so what, is Chevron maintaining headquarters there just because the CEO likes living there, and if perhaps he's an avid skier should the company then have dual headquarters in Aspen or Vail for the pleasure of the CEO ? So where's the business logic, the business reason for him being based there ? Clearly from this article out of San Fran Business Weekley Chevron is liquidating, so to speak, it's operations in the Bay area and relocating them to Texas.
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Old 07-06-2013, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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So far the plans are not to tear it down but to take it to the ground - a friend called Shorenstein and asked. Not sure why he wanted to know what they planned to do with it; he just did - so he called and asked. The anchors to the slab run underneath the parking lots on all four sides which is why artist's renderings of new building appear to be the same size and shape.
Well not anchors to the "slab" exactly but to the structure (you know what I mean, if I am not wording it right) - that is why there are parking lots on each side of that building is what he was told when he called to inquire.
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