Ugly Houston??? (Katy, Howe, Miami: pine, best, trees)

[Guerilla]

Originally Posted by tstone

The northeast side is about as far south as the 'piney woods' goes. You can follow the fringe from the NE side to the Woodlands. NE is also the least populated area in town if I'm not mistaken, and it gets 'redneck' pretty quick.

I just know I-45 from 610 to BW 8 is a furniture-store eyesore, and Greenspoint/IAH definitely has it's areas to pass through and leave ASAP. (Nice impression for the tourists, no doubt) I Didn't come from that side of town, never really explored much.

You ever been to the Memorial Villages south of I-10?

[tstone]

Originally Posted by Guerilla

You ever been to the Memorial Villages south of I-10?

I covered that one with this statement.

Originally Posted by tstone

I-10, on the other hand, is pretty good for the most part downtown to Hwy 6.

The topic is ugly here, not million-$ areas where one of my specialist doctors since age 5 works & lives.

[moritz391]

People love to Houston and I loved to hate it too in some way while in school at Rice. Living between Philadelphia and New York now and having traveled a great deal more throughout the US (rather than just Europe) in the past five years or so, I have a new appreciation for Houston.

At the moment, I live in a $1.5m town house on a classic Philadelphia block walkable to some of the best attractions in the city. But I'm also walkable to some of the worst ghettos in the country.

A lot of the suburban sprawl for which Houston gets so much grief exists everywhere. It just happens to be better concealed in other cities. Big patches of Queens, for example, are barely affordable to middle-income buyers who commute over an hour into Manhattan, but are unbelievably ugly. And the worst parts of the fifth ward really have absolutely nothing on the worst parts of East Coast cities or even LA for that matter.

And in terms of night life, dining, cafes, etc, Houston is pretty great. It's not NY, but it's also not that different from LA if you know what you're doing. And it kills Chicago IMO.

I would say that a lot of the inner loop--especially 77005, 77006, and 77019 is quite attractive. Boulevard Oaks, for example, has some of the most beautiful urban streets in the US. I lived in the Upper Kirby and West Gray and found them to be really interesting areas. And after five years of dealing with the East Coast bureaucracy, taxes, and corruption, I'm planning to relocate my company to Houston.

[houguy1087]

Originally Posted by person

This is what I am talking about again. Sneaky this time, trying to play up Houston by association. You say its comparing apples and oranges, but proceed to associated them together anyway. 'Miami's good looks lie in ... while Houston's good looks lie in...'

I hope you were not trying to pass them off as equally good, because Miami's beaches are top notched, world recognized, always in some list, while our trees and Sam Houston forest is, well, not, or anywhere near that kind of class. Putting a sentence together like that can mislead someone to think both have the same wow factor.

Actually person, mpope is making a valid statement about the comparison. The city of Houston (itself) does not have beaches and some people would prefer piney woods over beaches and vice versa. Those are two different types of land features.

[person]

Originally Posted by houguy1087

Actually person, mpope is making a valid statement about the comparison. The city of Houston (itself) does not have beaches and some people would prefer piney woods over beaches and vice versa. Those are two different types of land features.

Actually, mpope made 2 points, one obvious, one subtle. The obvious one is its like comparing apples and oranges, which is true, and as you said, two different land features. But after saying that, she still went ahead to associate their quality together anyway (Miami's good lies in... while Houston's good lies in), as if the quality or class of each attraction is up to par with the other, when its actually a difference of night and day. I am just saying don't make sentences that might mislead. I am sure some ppl might prefer the forest to the beach, but I think it makes sense that they wouldn't prefer a soso forest to a world class beach, or a world class forest to a dirty beach.

[houguy1087]

Originally Posted by person

Actually, mpope made 2 points, one obvious, one subtle. The obvious one is its like comparing apples and oranges, which is true, and as you said, two different land features. But after saying that, she still went ahead to associate their quality together anyway (Miami's good lies in... while Houston's good lies in), as if the quality or class of each attraction is up to par with the other, when its actually a difference of night and day. I am just saying don't make sentences that might mislead. I am sure some ppl might prefer the forest to the beach, but I think it makes sense that they wouldn't prefer a soso forest to a world class beach, or a world class forest to a dirty beach.

True, about the first part. However, I do think it is possible that some people would prefer a "soso forest" to a "world class beach."

[I LOVE NORTH CAROLINA]

Originally Posted by houguy1087

True, about the first part. However, I do think it is possible that some people would prefer a "soso forest" to a "world class beach."

I would, I have no interest in beaches at all.

[person]

Originally Posted by houguy1087

True, about the first part. However, I do think it is possible that some people would prefer a "soso forest" to a "world class beach."

You would be right, but the point was, if it is a just a regular forest, don't mislead others into thinking otherwise. I myself prefer real thick lush forests with waterfalls, like the ones in oregon to miami beaches.

[houguy1087]

Originally Posted by person

You would be right, but the point was, if it is a just a regular forest, don't mislead others into thinking otherwise.

Perfectly understandable.

[mpope409]

Originally Posted by tstone

The northeast side is about as far south as the 'piney woods' goes. You can follow the fringe from the NE side to the Woodlands. NE is also the least populated area in town if I'm not mistaken, and it gets 'redneck' pretty quick.

Well, actually, a lot of North Houston is strongly black. And the pine forest are not restricted to the NE side of town. They are in several areas of NW Houston. Like Acres Homes, where the greenery is really thick.

I just know I-45 from 610 to BW 8 is a furniture-store eyesore, and Greenspoint/IAH definitely has it's areas to pass through and leave ASAP. (Nice impression for the tourists, no doubt) I Didn't come from that side of town, never really explored much.

Well, the northside is my favorite side. And I'm not a person who considers furniture stores ugly, so I guess that's why I'm not bothered.