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Old 05-29-2014, 07:05 PM
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I would say lazy parents like them as an single point of comparison, lol, but data are meaningless without context and understanding. But I agree with your two points, Vicman.
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Old 05-29-2014, 07:54 PM
 
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Houston-area school districts ranked by SAT scores - Houston Chronicle

Katy ISD District average: 1577
(Highest-performing high schools - Cinco Ranch High School: 1690, Seven Lakes High School: 1657)

Clear Creek ISD District average: 1570
(Highest performing schools - Clear Horizons Early College High School: 1756, Clear Lake High School: 1677)

Spring Branch ISD District average: 1550
(Highest-performing high schools - Memorial High School: 1724, Stratford High School: 1609)

Conroe ISD District average: 1550
(Highest-performing high schools - The Woodlands High School: 1652, College Park High School: 1628)

Fort Bend ISD District average: 1508
(Highest-performing high schools - Clements High School: 1739, Stephen F. Austin High School: 1615)

Klein ISD District average: 1500
(Highest-performing high schools - Klein High School: 1585, Klein Oak High School: 1539)

Cypress-Fairbanks ISD District average: 1496
(Highest-performing schools - Cypress Woods High School: 1556, Cypress Ranch High School: 1549)

Magnolia ISD District average: 1491
(Highest-performing schools - Magnolia High School: 1518, Magnolia West High School: 1460)

Brazosport ISD District average: 1490
(Highest-performing schools - Brazosport High School: 1290, Brazoswood High School: 1547)

Pearland ISD District average: 1484
(Highest-performing schools - Pearland High School: 1467, Dawson High School: 1507)

Lamar CISD District average: 1476
(Highest-performing high schools - George Ranch High School: 1638, Foster High School: 1489)

Humble ISD District average: 1473
(Highest-performing high schools - Kingwood High School: 1644, Kingwood Park High School/Quest Early, College High School (tie): 1489)

Alvin ISD District average: 1395
(Highest-performing high schools - Alvin High School: 1408, Manvel High School: 1385)

Pasadena ISD District average: 1317
(Highest-performing high schools - Pasadena Memorial High School: 1408, Dobie High School: 1366)

Alief ISD District average: 1295
(Highest-performing high schools - Kerr High School: 1583, Taylor High School: 1270)

Galena Park ISD District average: 1295
(Highest-performing high schools - Galena Park High School: 1253, North Shore Senior High: 1315)

Aldine ISD District average: 1278
(Highest-performing schools - Victory Early College High School: 1481, Carver High School for Applied Technology/Engineering: 1363)

Spring ISD District average: 1275
(Highest-performing high schools - Spring High School: 1349, Westfield High School: 1203)

Houston ISD District average: 1253
(Highest-performing high schools - Carnegie Vanguard High School: 1883, Debakey High School for Health Professionals: 1844)


SAT is the best way to rank a school district IMHO
Although a small district have to add Friendswood
Friendswood's SAT 1625
and ACT 24.7
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Old 05-29-2014, 07:59 PM
 
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I don't see where it says how many students from each school actually took the test. It seems to me that would make a difference.
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Old 05-29-2014, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Katy,TX.
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Here's the link to pull up any School/District in the state 2012-13 Texas Academic Performance Reports

Example; Katy High School: 1532
http://ritter.tea.state.tx.us/perfre...c101914001.pdf

Last edited by usc619; 05-29-2014 at 09:30 PM..
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Old 05-29-2014, 09:03 PM
 
Location: Katy,TX.
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It is only surprising if you have no understanding of basic statistics and how means are heavily influenced by sample sizes and what's included in the denominator. The more students taking the SAT, the lower the average score will be - thus you end up with the district with the highest performing schools ranked lowest here, as chris_ut points out. Spring Branch as a district is indeed not a high performing one despite this score which basically represents only two high schools, and relatively homogenous suburban ones at that. (Is anything but unqualified praise considered hating to you? Hmm, not very mature.).
So by your logic, Katy ISD should not have a higher average than most Houston area ISD's because it's the third or fourth largest district in the area???? Not sure if I have the basic understanding of statistics
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Old 05-29-2014, 09:25 PM
 
Location: League City
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What are Eastwood's scores... and not Eastwood in El Paso. Nevermind, I just looked them up...
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Old 05-29-2014, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Katy,TX.
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Where's Eastwood's scores... and not Eastwood in El Paso.
Eastwood Academy: 1374
http://ritter.tea.state.tx.us/perfre...c101912301.pdf
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Old 05-29-2014, 10:27 PM
 
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Just out of curiosity, what are the scores for the private schools?
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Old 05-30-2014, 04:00 AM
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So by your logic, Katy ISD should not have a higher average than most Houston area ISD's because it's the third or fourth largest district in the area???? Not sure if I have the basic understanding of statistics
Not only does the size or participation rate matter, SAT means are also exquisitely sensitive to population differences. Is it at all meaningful to compare district-wide SAT averages between Katy's 7 generally uniform high schools to HISD's 39 high schools, encompassing the likes of both Carnegie and Yates?
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Old 05-30-2014, 05:07 AM
 
Location: Katy,TX.
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Not only does the size or participation rate matter, SAT means are also exquisitely sensitive to population differences. Is it at all meaningful to compare district-wide SAT averages between Katy's 7 generally uniform high schools to HISD's 39 high schools, encompassing the likes of both Carnegie and Yates?
I'd have to disagree, If you take HISD out the equation your argument has nothing to stand on. So by your theory, these small one HS district should be outscoring Cy-Fair, Katy, Ft.Bend, Conroe, Clear Creek and Klein whom all have an average of at least 1500?

list of small Houston area ISD

District average (North Forest High School only): 1114

District average (Hempstead High School only): 1224

District average (Hitchcock High School only): 1234

District average (C.E. King High School only): 1238

District average (La Marque High School only): 1239

District average (Cleveland High School only): 1267

District average (Channelview High School only): 1285

District average (Ball High School only): 1327

District average (Texas City High School only): 1353

District average (Dayton High School only): 1356

District average (Stafford High School only): 1357

District average (Dickinson High School only): 1372

District average (Sweeny High School only): 1384

District average (Angleton High School only): 1401

District average (Santa Fe High School only): 1405

District average (Waller High School only): 1411

District average (La Porte High School only): 1427

District average (Hargrave High School only): 1427

District average (Crosby High School only): 1435

District average (Danbury High School only): 1448

District average (Deer Park High School only): 1472

District average (Tomball High School only): 1512

District average (Montgomery High School only): 1528

District average (Friendswood High School only): 1625
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