League City votes to ban housing of undocumented children (Mart: living, cost)

[txdemo]

I'm stunned that this topic has generated some divisions among the CD posters.

[texsn95]

Originally Posted by jerbear30

doctors are some of the few high-paid professional people who really should earn about what they're earning. This is about more than that disingenuous analogy.

Who are you to say that most high-paid people don't deserve what they earn? Are you really that arrogant? Again, you sound bitter for your place on the earnings totem pole.

[crone]

Go to Numbers USA. Watch the gum ball video. We could take in millions of people a year and not do a thing toward helping the poor of the world.

You wanna stop undocumented people from coming in? Stop the drug money laundering banks. Put a big tax on the gift cards sent south.

Stop buying from the folks who hire undocumented people. The restaurants, donut makers, homebuilders, food producers, tree trimmers and others.

Blame any administration til the cows come home. We are doing this to ourselves.

We have the perfect storm. The Republican base is screaming, but their elected have to serve the National Chamber of Commerce who want immigration reform. The give us your tired and poor liberals who would take in anybody have teamed up with the Chamber.

We are going to get the Dream Act. When Bob Perry was building houses using illegals, did he think they were single and celibate?

If the game playing Republicans who run Texas really want to stop the flow to the north, they can give all that money back to Bob Perry and his ilk.

[Vicman]

The "we need to be charitable" is used to get sympathy from lefties and Hispanics (a care for their own from Mexicans and Central Americans) but the real reason they are here: to provide cheap labor.

"When Bob Perry was building houses using illegals, did he think they were single and celibate?" - And what social class is Bob Perry in?

"Stop buying from the folks who hire undocumented people. The restaurants, donut makers, homebuilders, food producers, tree trimmers and others." What social classes patronize these establishments?

"If the game playing Republicans who run Texas really want to stop the flow to the north," -- You know the answer is that none of them are serious about stopping illegals: they like the money illegals bring in.

To be honest I think anti-illegal immigration activists and "make everyone legal" bleeding heart activists should both give up and quit. This situation will only change when big business decides so.

Originally Posted by crone

Go to Numbers USA. Watch the gum ball video. We could take in millions of people a year and not do a thing toward helping the poor of the world.

You wanna stop undocumented people from coming in? Stop the drug money laundering banks. Put a big tax on the gift cards sent south.

Stop buying from the folks who hire undocumented people. The restaurants, donut makers, homebuilders, food producers, tree trimmers and others.

Blame any administration til the cows come home. We are doing this to ourselves.

We have the perfect storm. The Republican base is screaming, but their elected have to serve the National Chamber of Commerce who want immigration reform. The give us your tired and poor liberals who would take in anybody have teamed up with the Chamber.

We are going to get the Dream Act. When Bob Perry was building houses using illegals, did he think they were single and celibate?

If the game playing Republicans who run Texas really want to stop the flow to the north, they can give all that money back to Bob Perry and his ilk.

[PedroMartinez]

Originally Posted by txdemo

I'm stunned that this topic has generated some divisions among the CD posters.

LOL. True.

[Vicman]

Originally Posted by PedroMartinez

LOL. True.

What's even better is that the people divided over the "safe" issues don't see the big picture (that's what those in power want). If someone seriously got close to getting an effective political ban on illegals (or anything that would inconvenience the rich), Mr. Man in Fedora will show the diaper photos of the adult son (or whatever blackmail is being used to get somebody to stop trying). You fail to heed his word? The diaper photos get on 4chan (people will think teenage hackers did it). The son makes a tearful, frightening phone call about how everyone is now laughing at him and thinking he's creepy before he commits suicide, and Mr. Man in Fedora is roaring at your misfortune.

[PedroMartinez]

Originally Posted by Vicman

What's even better is that the people divided over the "safe" issues don't see the big picture (that's what those in power want). If someone seriously got close to getting an effective political ban on illegals (or anything that would inconvenience the rich), Mr. Man in Fedora will show the diaper photos of the adult son (or whatever blackmail is being used to get somebody to stop trying). You fail to heed his word? The diaper photos get on 4chan (people will think teenage hackers did it). The son makes a tearful, frightening phone call about how everyone is now laughing at him and thinking he's creepy before he commits suicide, and Mr. Man in Fedora is roaring at your misfortune.

That went right over my head.

[texsn95]

That gets my vote as the creepiest post of the year so far.

[Rip808]

Y'all if you break it down its kind of simple. You have the "perfect storm" really...

1. The United States is the biggest consumer of drugs in the world, the demand is unbelievable = drug cartels to supply
2. These cartels wreak havoc in the countries where it is being produced (Mexico, Central America) = seek refuge somewhere else.
3. Pull demand from big business (Homes, construction, agriculture, poultry, restaurants, hotels, etc) = Come to the US because making minimum wage is 100X better than living in extreme poverty.
4. Free trade agreements that have reeked havoc in these countries making their products inferior.

Until the govt. starts to fine employers heavy sums of money for hiring undocumented immigrants this is going to continue now and forever. Until we come to terms with the addictions and dependency on drugs this country faces the supply will always be there. All those cheap TV's, and fruit and houses are the result of cheap labor from other countries, thus making our standard of living better. If you found yourself in some of the situations that most of these people coming over are in, you would risk your life in making the trek to the North as well. Both democrats AND republicans are guilty of this. All the finger pointing is ridiculous, this is why nothing gets done in congress. People are unwilling to compromise. Now to the kids, I say welcome.

We are partly to blame for this either directly or indirectly (consuming drugs, buying a new house, hiring undocumented workers for lawns, daycare, repairs, etc). If they are in real danger and have family here in the states, I say release them to them and have them become a productful member of society. If you had the wits and determination and made it out alive, you can really be somebody one day. If they are not in danger, and have no family here, then we need to send them to their family. How do we know if they are in danger? I have no clue.

Some of these children are in dire situations, “Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.”I truly feel for them. Ok, that is all.

[crone]

[quote=PedroMartinez;35605017]That went right over my head.[/QUOTE I think the man in the black hat is a government employee who blackmails people who are making too much noise.

Such as the decorated Marine who was a UN weapons inspector in Iraq. Scott Ritter tried to tell anybody who would listen to him that the WMD's were bogus. They knew what Iraq had and where it went down to the part numbers.

Suddenly he was arrested on some soliciting child pornography charge that was dismissed after the invasion.

Stuff like that that our government does.