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Old 07-02-2015, 08:20 AM
 
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That's essentially the argument I hear from those who could care less that gentrification drives people out of the neighbors they have built their lives in and enjoy living. It's always, "So what, they can either take the money or borrow more money to stay."
That's the price of progress
could be worse, just ask the people that lived in St. Thomas, Nevada before Hoover Dam was built.



St. Thomas: A high-and-dry ghost town - Las Vegas Sun News

St. Thomas is known for one thing: It was the town that was flooded in 1938 by Hoover Dam. The history is much richer than that, and in recent years, people have been able to explore it. Due to the recent drought, the water that once covered the site — about 60 feet deep — is gone, and you can scramble down to the site and wander among the foundations, cisterns and tamarisk.

The story of St. Thomas is, in many ways, the story of Nevada — hearty pioneers came to try to make a living here and when things didn’t work, they moved on. The town was eventually given up for something with better benefits — Hoover Dam.

Residents fought the federal government to no avail and complained about what they said was the government’s low payments for their properties. Nearly all of the residents left well before the lake flooded the town, but there were a few people who denied that the lake would rise that high.
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Old 07-02-2015, 08:54 AM
 
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That's the price of progress
could be worse, just ask the people that lived in St. Thomas, Nevada before Hoover Dam was built.



St. Thomas: A high-and-dry ghost town - Las Vegas Sun News

St. Thomas is known for one thing: It was the town that was flooded in 1938 by Hoover Dam. The history is much richer than that, and in recent years, people have been able to explore it. Due to the recent drought, the water that once covered the site — about 60 feet deep — is gone, and you can scramble down to the site and wander among the foundations, cisterns and tamarisk.

The story of St. Thomas is, in many ways, the story of Nevada — hearty pioneers came to try to make a living here and when things didn’t work, they moved on. The town was eventually given up for something with better benefits — Hoover Dam.

Residents fought the federal government to no avail and complained about what they said was the government’s low payments for their properties. Nearly all of the residents left well before the lake flooded the town, but there were a few people who denied that the lake would rise that high.
So, you compare people displaced by a crappy tax system to the government's need to purchase property to build infrastructure?

I'm guessing you must have been a big fan of that Florida decision where homeowners were forced to sell their property to a private developer wanting to build an expensive development. The argument was that the government would be able to collect more taxes following this forced sell.

I guess that is the "progress" some "progressives" enjoy.

I guess only us conservatives care about the little guy.
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Old 07-02-2015, 01:46 PM
 
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Sure, next thing you are gonna tell me that "TransCanada's Keystone Pipeline" is a "little guy"


Nebraska Judge: Law Allowing Keystone XL 'Unconstitutional'

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A Nebraska state judge struck down a law allowing the construction of the controversial Keystone XL pipeline Wednesday, declaring it unconstitutional.

The law, LB 1161, allowed Nebraska Gov. Dave Heineman, a Republican, and pipeline owner TransCanada to sidestep regulators and use eminent domain to build on private land.

Lancaster County District Judge Stephanie Stacy sided with three landowners who challenged the law, finding that regulatory power over industrial companies such as TransCanada must remain with agencies like the Nebraska Public Service Commission, not the governor’s office.
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Old 07-07-2015, 07:37 AM
 
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Sure, next thing you are gonna tell me that "TransCanada's Keystone Pipeline" is a "little guy"


Nebraska Judge: Law Allowing Keystone XL 'Unconstitutional'

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A Nebraska state judge struck down a law allowing the construction of the controversial Keystone XL pipeline Wednesday, declaring it unconstitutional.

The law, LB 1161, allowed Nebraska Gov. Dave Heineman, a Republican, and pipeline owner TransCanada to sidestep regulators and use eminent domain to build on private land.

Lancaster County District Judge Stephanie Stacy sided with three landowners who challenged the law, finding that regulatory power over industrial companies such as TransCanada must remain with agencies like the Nebraska Public Service Commission, not the governor’s office.
I don't believe the governor should be allowed to sidestep, and I agree with the court ruling, but what does this have to do with poor people being forced out of the neighborhoods that DINK's covet so highly?

Do you agree that we should have a tax system that allows this type of gentrification that essentially kicks people out of neighborhoods that they still want to reside?
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