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Old 10-11-2017, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
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Yeah Failed Engineer makes another good point - Houston has a lot of Canadian expats compared to a lot of other places. Definitely a good foothold in the market if they decide to go about soliciting a team to come here.
One thing to know, however, is that North Carolina and Phoenix have way more Northeastern and Midwestern transplants that are hockey crazy than Houston. Houston really isnt a very big destination for people from those places relative to its size. Hockey didnt work in Atlanta and I was surprised because Atlanta is chalk full of people from the Northeast.
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Old 10-11-2017, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Hougary, Texberta
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Raleigh-Durham's metro population is 2M. Phoenix's is 4M, but the arena for the Coyotes is way out in the suburb of Glendale, far away from either central Phoenix or Scottsdale where most of the fan base would be.


Houston's metro population is 6M. You may have a lower percentage of fans than Carolina but you're pulling from a pool triple the size.
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Old 10-11-2017, 02:17 PM
 
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Then LA Kings owner Jack Kent Cooke (in 1973) on why Kings was attendance was poor even though there were so many Canadians living in LA:

"There are 800,000 Canadians living in the Los Angeles area, and I've just discovered why they left Canada. They hate hockey."
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Old 10-11-2017, 06:29 PM
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The Aeros did very well in terms of attendance in the WHA.

Houston will support hockey. Although like everything else here, a lot depends on W/L.
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Old 10-12-2017, 07:45 AM
 
Location: Hougary, Texberta
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The Aeros did very well in terms of attendance in the WHA.

Houston will support hockey. Although like everything else here, a lot depends on W/L.
Agreed. Winning helps everything. An expansion team here would be doomed to fail. If we could get the Coyotes, that would be amazing.


As far as attendance, you're right. the Aeros, while it seems that 3-4000 is low, was one of the top teams in the AHL for butts in the seats. Of course that's a step down from the NHL, but proof of concept that it should work.
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Old 10-12-2017, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Mo City, TX
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Unless you grew up playing it I don't see how you can become a fan that will consistently support the team. My understanding is southern NHL teams don't do to well in general.
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Old 10-12-2017, 12:29 PM
 
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I did a little goggle searching and found this graph. It shows the 2015 2016 operating income ( in US millions ) of all of the NHL teams. Some are predictable with Montreal at the top, with Chicago and Toronto in second and third. But the Dallas team is surprisingly profitable.


link to the chart. https://www.statista.com/statistics/...teams-in-2010/


Minnesota which most casual observers would assume to be profitable team, are actually on the thin edge of losing money most years. Some southern US teams do very well. while some others do not. Team management is usually the difference. Scouting and savvy recruiting also counts towards on the ice success.


Some NHL teams have full time scouts in Europe, and it shows. Detroit Red Wings in particular had a Russian face for about 10 years. Now, about 30 percent of the NHL players are from European countries, and the Canadians are 50 percent of the league. NHL is the one pro sport played in the US, where Americans are a minority of the players.


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Old 10-12-2017, 12:52 PM
 
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The Huston Aeros in the World Hockey League had a few good years, winning the AVCO Cup in 1975 and 1975.


Most people today know who Gordie Howe was. Mister Hockey played with his two sons Mark and Marty for the Aeros. He was one of the first NHL players to jump to the WHA. For those that don't know, Howe played professional hockey for a total of 32 seasons, from age 18 to age 52.


A 23 time all star, he played on four Stanley cup teams, was a six time winner of the Hart Trophy as the league MVP, and was the guy who had a NHL oddity named after him.. The Gordie Howe hat trick...a goal, an assist, and a five minute penalty for fighting...... all in one game.


Oh and he could shoot from either side, too.


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Old 10-16-2017, 02:03 PM
 
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As soon as the Rockets sale was announced. I knew Fertitta would try to put in a hockey team
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Old 10-16-2017, 02:09 PM
 
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Yes and it would be a Western Conference Central Division team so I can cheer for my Blackhawks when they come to town and Houston the rest of the time
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