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Old 07-05-2018, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Greater Houston
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Originally Posted by Jack Lance View Post
I never heard of I-10 flooding until after the state did the massive redesign of I-10 10 years ago.
Actually the depressed section of I-10 inside the loop flooded during Tropical Storm Allison in 2001.

Here's what I was watching on Channel 11 back then:

https://youtu.be/XK7r2sGRVM4

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The news coverage of these types of street flooding events has definitely changed. There was a time in the 70's when this may have lead off local news coverage but it wouldn't have been a all day event. Many local stations went 24/7 on this. The CBS national news mentioned it saying Houston floods without giving any idea as to the scope of what happened.

Basically what happened is it rained up to 8 inches there was some local street flooding which has happened literally thousands of time before. Some cars stalled because people tried to transverse flooded streets but there was no need for any water rescues or homes flooded or Bayous over their banks. Having an outdoor concert canceled is not a national story. Just goes to show you the media is desperate for fodder to fill their massive content needs.....
The rainstorm produced heavy pockets of rain, but in the wrong place for the TV news. If the rain happened in the suburbs, this would only be a top local story for the regularly scheduled newscasts. But since the isolated heavy rain, and the resulting flooding, happened in the Inner Loop it warrants wall-to-wall TV coverage all day--even interrupting network programming on the Big 3 stations.

Here in Katy, I probably got 2-3 inches for the entire day.

Here is an example of General Hospital being interrupted for a brief weather update in 1985:

https://youtu.be/QueXPxdwTME

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In the 80s everyone spazed out when ever a hurricane was in the gulf after going through Alicia.
The story became stale once it hit noon yesterday. It turned out that it was just the same local street flooding that happened thousands of times before. Only thing is the PTSD from Harvey that will take a few years to wear off, just like back in the mid-1980s.

Speaking about the outdoor concert, it's too bad we're American. The weather was fine this past Sunday on Canada Day. I wonder what Pat Robertson would say about this coincidence?
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Old 07-05-2018, 11:44 AM
 
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I've always said it
Natural disasters can turn the most conservative person into a socialist

What happened to "pull yourself up by your bootstraps?"
Go ahead and pull yourself up by your bootstraps, sell your house and move to higher ground
instead of asking everybody to fix your problem
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Old 07-05-2018, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Greater Houston
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I've always said it
Natural disasters can turn the most conservative person into a socialist

What happened to "pull yourself up by your bootstraps?"
Go ahead and pull yourself up by your bootstraps, sell your house and move to higher ground
instead of asking everybody to fix your problem
Honestly, Meyerland is a natural reservoir (perhaps a pre-historic lake?) and should be turned into the 3rd or 4th reservoir once the houses are cleared off the flood pool.
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Old 07-05-2018, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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I like my city and plan to live here until retirement, but I am losing faith in our elected officials and bureaucrats (at all level) being able to make the BIG expensive changes necessary to deal with the next 100 years of growth and climate change. They seem paralyzed. They are addicted to the tax dollars that new development brings, even though that development pushes water too fast into our bayous, which in turn fill too quickly and overflow. Add to this a state that spends as little as possible on anything that isn't a highway, and you basically have us turning our back on the next generation of Houstonians.

Last week a house was torn down about a mile away from me along Brays Bayou. Nothing new, but it had been raised two feet after TS Allison. TWO FEET. And it has flooded two times this decade with probably two feet of water each time. This is how fast things are changing. Yet the city continues to give out more floodplain development permits, and the county keeps allowing new surburban and exurban development in places it shouldn't. All point fingers at each other and keep their conscious clear that they are "just following the rules."

Not sure where it ends, but we don't seem to be learning.
2015, 2016, 2017, and now 2018 have now had major flooding events in particular areas along bayous in the city. Excuses were made that they were rare events. But if this has now happened at least once per year the last four years, what does the future hold for these area and for the city. This suburban and exurban development is a problem for Houston.
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Old 07-05-2018, 03:16 PM
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Location: Beautiful Northwest Houston
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2015, 2016, 2017, and now 2018 have now had major flooding events in particular areas along bayous in the city. Excuses were made that they were rare events. But if this has now happened at least once per year the last four years, what does the future hold for these area and for the city. This suburban and exurban development is a problem for Houston.
Are you kidding me, "a major flooding event" ? Please show me any houses that were flooded, please show how many water rescues were performed. This is hyperbolic nonsense , having a few cars ruined is not a "major" flooding event !
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Old 07-05-2018, 03:56 PM
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Location: Katy,TX.
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2015, 2016, 2017, and now 2018 have now had major flooding events in particular areas along bayous in the city. Excuses were made that they were rare events. But if this has now happened at least once per year the last four years, what does the future hold for these area and for the city. This suburban and exurban development is a problem for Houston.
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Are you kidding me, "a major flooding event" ? Please show me any houses that were flooded, please show how many water rescues were performed. This is hyperbolic nonsense , having a few cars ruined is not a "major" flooding event !
Unreal, so you're saying the Memorial day, Tax day, Harvey, Ike, etc... don't count as major flooding events? IMHO a few hundred cars do count as a major event.
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Old 07-05-2018, 04:19 PM
 
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Unreal, so you're saying the Memorial day, Tax day, Harvey, Ike, etc... don't count as major flooding events? IMHO a few hundred cars do count as a major event.
Iím sure he is referring to the flooding event yesterday.
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Old 07-05-2018, 04:19 PM
Status: "waite untill next year. It was fun while it lasted !" (set 8 days ago)
 
Location: Beautiful Northwest Houston
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Unreal, so you're saying the Memorial day, Tax day, Harvey, Ike, etc... don't count as major flooding events? IMHO a few hundred cars do count as a major event.
The first part of your reply I'm going to ignore, Houston has had many "major" flooding events.

No it's 100 cars that were actually flooded by yesterdays rains. This was NOT a major flooding event and only hyper-sensitive or hyper critical distractors would try to make it seem so....

But hold on there is the possibility of more rain so maybe you will get your wish soon....
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Old 07-05-2018, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Westchase
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I heard that Harris County knew there were needed infastructure improvements but it was never built. Is that true?
I don't doubt it. The first hurricane I remember big time is Carla and we haven't done doodly-squat since then.
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Old 07-05-2018, 06:10 PM
Status: "Impeach "The Bareback Don"" (set 14 days ago)
 
Location: Katy,TX.
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The first part of your reply I'm going to ignore, Houston has had many "major" flooding events.

No it's 100 cars that were actually flooded by yesterdays rains. This was NOT a major flooding event and only hyper-sensitive or hyper critical distractors would try to make it seem so....

But hold on there is the possibility of more rain so maybe you will get your wish soon....
lol @ the last part, I actually have jealous friends in CA wishing for it. Any other city would consider this a major event, I guess this is to be expected in H-Town
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