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Old 07-15-2018, 11:50 AM
 
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Its pretty undisputable that a majority of white houstonians (and a goodly portion of black for that matter) originally had roots in Louisiana. Actual European immigrants on the other hand would be a different story though obviously.
Many of the settlers in Texas were Scots-Irish stock that kept moving across North America until they arrived here. The may have stopped in Louisiana before coming here, but not for long. The typical path over decades was SE Pennsylvania, then North Carolina, then Tennessee, then Alabama, then Texas, via Louisiana or Arkansas.

After Texas Independence, the biggest groups that didn't come from the US were the Germans and Czechs(Bohemia and Moravia) that settled in Central Texas, and to the West of Houston. There were also numerous Germans who settled in the Houston area to farm, hence all the German names on roads in the Spring, Cypress, and Spring Branch areas.
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Old 07-15-2018, 11:57 AM
 
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Texas is not a Louisiana colony, but Houston and Beaumont are culturally aligned with Louisiana. The blacks and whites have deep roots from there.
There's a lot of truth to that, obviously, but as Houston grew to the north and west it also started absorbing areas and populations that had not been traditionally linked to Louisiana - as I noted before, especially the areas that had been settled by German and Czech immigrants since the mid-1800s. I view Houston as a sort of boundary of Louisiana influence and point of intermixing with the different influences of interior Texas, at least for whites. Not sure if Blacks make a distinction there, as I don't know if those with a history coming out of central TX viewed themselves as linked to Louisiana.
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Old 07-15-2018, 12:01 PM
 
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There's a lot of truth to that, obviously, but as Houston grew to the north and west it also started absorbing areas and populations that had not been traditionally linked to Louisiana - as I noted before, especially the areas that had been settled by German and Czech immigrants since the mid-1800s. I view Houston as a sort of boundary of Louisiana influence and point of intermixing with the different influences of interior Texas, at least for whites. Not sure if Blacks make a distinction there, as I don't know if those with a history coming out of central TX viewed themselves as linked to Louisiana.
I get that. I was helping Jack Lance to understand what cbach meant.
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Old 07-15-2018, 12:37 PM
 
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Many of the settlers in Texas were Scots-Irish stock that kept moving across North America until they arrived here. The may have stopped in Louisiana before coming here, but not for long. The typical path over decades was SE Pennsylvania, then North Carolina, then Tennessee, then Alabama, then Texas, via Louisiana or Arkansas.

After Texas Independence, the biggest groups that didn't come from the US were the Germans and Czechs(Bohemia and Moravia) that settled in Central Texas, and to the West of Houston. There were also numerous Germans who settled in the Houston area to farm, hence all the German names on roads in the Spring, Cypress, and Spring Branch areas.
Right...they came from Louisiana to Houston, like i said...everyone in america came from somewhere else to get where they are now. Theres a slight, but somewhat obvious german influence in Houston, but nowhere near the Louisiana ties that have always existed in Houston and that still exist today.

Much of North Texas was settled by Arkansans, Tennesseeans and Missourians following the Southwest Trail. They probably only stopped in those states too for a couple of generations, but many of the northeast Texas and North Texas counties are named for people from those states.

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Old 07-15-2018, 06:42 PM
 
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In Houston most African American came from Houston,TX. Most Asian in Houston came came from Asia countries and Most Hispanic came from Spanish speaking countries. So what is the Origins of Whites population
My eyebrows raised. "What?"
Who cares? I honestly don't and I'm white.

If you want the right answers, consult a history of Texas. It's rich and deep and very meaningful. It's why our state is so proud of who we are -- Culturally diverse, fighting for our independence from Mexico.
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Old 07-16-2018, 12:00 AM
 
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White people in Houston come from Montgomery county
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Old 07-16-2018, 07:12 AM
 
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Its pretty undisputable that a majority of white houstonians (and a goodly portion of black for that matter) originally had roots in Louisiana. Actual European immigrants on the other hand would be a different story though obviously.
Yeah this proves that the "stock" in the Houston and Beaumont area are mainly Louisianians which is what I said.
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Old 07-16-2018, 07:17 AM
 
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Many of the settlers in Texas were Scots-Irish stock that kept moving across North America until they arrived here. The may have stopped in Louisiana before coming here, but not for long. The typical path over decades was SE Pennsylvania, then North Carolina, then Tennessee, then Alabama, then Texas, via Louisiana or Arkansas.

After Texas Independence, the biggest groups that didn't come from the US were the Germans and Czechs(Bohemia and Moravia) that settled in Central Texas, and to the West of Houston. There were also numerous Germans who settled in the Houston area to farm, hence all the German names on roads in the Spring, Cypress, and Spring Branch areas.
That map doesn't indicate that. It shows the state of birth and the state of residence. Harris County is LA/LA as is most of Southeast Texas including Corpus Christi (that was news to me).

The map should be interpreted to mean that settlers in Southeast Texas came from Louisiana. This means that they were primarily of French (Catholic) origin being born in Louisiana and having resided in Louisiana. What the map doesn't say is which part of Louisiana they came from, but since the majority of the population in Louisiana live in the southern portion of the state, we can assume most came from that part. So we can safely say they were either Cajuns or Creoles. Since we're talking about about whites and Creole generally means mixed with some African, it can be assumed that most of those immigrants were indeed Cajun French.

This is a big part of the history of Houston and why Houston is called "Bayou City" instead of "Stream City" or "Creek City".

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Old 07-16-2018, 08:10 AM
 
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That map doesn't indicate that. It shows the state of birth and the state of residence. Harris County is LA/LA as is most of Southeast Texas including Corpus Christi (that was news to me).
The map shows what happened from 1835-1880. I wonder what a map of more recent times, say the past 50 years would show...
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Old 07-16-2018, 08:49 AM
 
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Before the "new South" or "Sunbelt" boom that started drawing large numbers of people from the North to Texas in the 50s and 60s, the vast majority of Southern non-Hispanic white people were Scotch-Irish in ancestry. In Texas, as noted above, Central Texas had a substantial population of German ancestry and Southeastern Texas a substantial French-Cajun group; but I believe even in those areas you would find the Scotch-Irish predominated. The majority of non-German settlers in Texas during the 1700s and 1800s were from other Southern states to the east.

With the influx of people from the North (Air conditioning!) of course their own ethnicities are now present, as in Italians, Irish from the 1840s and 1850s, Eastern Europeans, etc.

As far as Hispanics - which is not a race - you should never forget that a large number of Hispanic people have always been in Texas. The "Spanish speaking country" they were living in was converted to another country, and then to yet another country, and then was annexed to the United States.
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