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Old 08-06-2018, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles & Houston
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I wasnt implying that wasnt the case. I know many producers can play musical instruments. What I am saying is that, musical instruments are much harder to play than creating beats in a computer. It takes more talent to do that. If a person can do all the above, more power to them.

This isnt specific to rap. I have this same conversation with friends of mine that like EDM and techno. Im not saying talent isnt required to produce beats and rap, but more talent is required to be a multi-instrumentalist or vocalist. And again Im aware many people do both.
I don't agree with this because like you said it takes talent to produce beats. Not everyone can produce EDM tracks and get hundreds/thousands of people grooving at the same time. Rather than saying it takes more talent, I think it's better to say it takes a different kind of talent.
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Old 08-06-2018, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Katy,TX.
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Just got around to playing the album today, I thought it was very good.
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Old 08-07-2018, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles/Austin
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Wait, how is Astroworld proof of that?
Im saying he made a whole album around a theme park in his city.

Most actors singers and rappers make it big and forget to "thank" the city they are from. The city that made them into who they are.

Not Houstonians.

Says alot
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Old 08-07-2018, 09:33 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles/Austin
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Thank you for bringing this back to reality.

Rap or any kind of music isnt proof of "awesomeness" of a city. The most talented act currently "repping" Houston is Oceans of Slumber. The lead vocalist has an amazing voice and their members can play multiple instruments. But rappers tend to be more flamboyant about things they have and I guess that give people something to aspire to. The most talented musicians are not the ones that produce beats, but can actually play musical instruments.

Travis Scott is talented and I thought Astroworld was very well done, but dont make it out to be more than what it is.
Ha. You're tripping. Making a beat for rap or edm isn't something anyone can do.

You're talking like it's "buy a laptop, push button and bammm a hit"

Cmon man.
Get out more.
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Old 08-07-2018, 09:41 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Ha. You're tripping. Making a beat for rap or edm isn't something anyone can do.

You're talking like it's "buy a laptop, push button and bammm a hit"

Cmon man.
Get out more.
I know exactly what it entails because I have friends back in California that do it. I also play two musical instruments and have for years.

It’s true that not just anyone can do it. It’s a great deal of mixing levels and beats and balancing the out. Most people i know who do it also work in recording studios mixing and editing other kinds of music. However if you think mastering beats is more difficult than mastering most instruments you don’t know the first thing about music. Any honestly producer would say the same.
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Old 08-08-2018, 09:49 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles & Houston
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I know exactly what it entails because I have friends back in California that do it. I also play two musical instruments and have for years.

It’s true that not just anyone can do it. It’s a great deal of mixing levels and beats and balancing the out. Most people i know who do it also work in recording studios mixing and editing other kinds of music. However if you think mastering beats is more difficult than mastering most instruments you don’t know the first thing about music. Any honestly producer would say the same.
Like who? I've never seen or heard that anywhere. Anybody can make beats just like anyone can mash keys on the piano. Putting them together to create the right tune/melody is extremely difficult, especially if those beats are going to stand through the test of time. There's plenty of beats that have been made that just sound outdated. Few producers can make beats that hold up for decades and the guy below mastered the switchboard...


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Old 08-08-2018, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Like who? I've never seen or heard that anywhere. Anybody can make beats just like anyone can mash keys on the piano. Putting them together to create the right tune/melody is extremely difficult, especially if those beats are going to stand through the test of time. There's plenty of beats that have been made that just sound outdated. Few producers can make beats that hold up for decades and the guy below mastered the switchboard...

Did I say anyone could make beats? It takes a specific ear and technical knowledge.

I was talking about mixing and mastering which is a very similar process.

And yes, mastering an instrument is more difficult.
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Old 08-08-2018, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles/Austin
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Did I say anyone could make beats? It takes a specific ear and technical knowledge.

I was talking about mixing and mastering which is a very similar process.

And yes, mastering an instrument is more difficult.
Funny how you say you know producers and play tw instruments...

Fyi. A producer of beats have to master the drums. The synth. The piano the orchestra.

Then you have to mix it. Most bedroom producers don't have money to outsource the job. Trust me.

I was a bedroom producer making edm. I gave up after 2 years. Became a freelance writer instead.
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Old 08-08-2018, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Funny how you say you know producers and play tw instruments...

Fyi. A producer of beats have to master the drums. The synth. The piano the orchestra.

Then you have to mix it. Most bedroom producers don't have money to outsource the job. Trust me.

I was a bedroom producer making edm. I gave up after 2 years. Became a freelance writer instead.
A producer has to deal with time signatures and creating drum beats, loops, etc. yes. They also have to master the various tracks. Thats true.

That doesnt change anything I said about the difficulties of mastering an instrument.
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