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Old 11-18-2019, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Foster, TX
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Please ctrl + c and ctrl + v this on multiple (infinite?) threads on this site. Thank you.

Next step....ISD boundaries <> municipal boundaries.

But then how will I derive an unjust amount of smug satisfaction (or is it frustration-induced face-palming?) trying to explain to Karen that no, you do not live in Katy, TX just because you go to Seven Lakes HS?

Also: No Chad, a neighborhood cannot "petition the school board" to be zoned out of one school district into another.
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Old 11-18-2019, 03:42 PM
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What's funny is that the mail will deliver correctly, I believe, if you use either "Spring, TX" or "The Woodlands, TX" and I think it's the case even if you omit the city name.

The actual boundary of the Spring census-designated place is much narrower and only includes Spring ISD locations: https://www2.census.gov/geo/maps/dc1...869596_spring/
The zip is what is important. You can also do West University Place or Houston. Clear Lake City or Houston.
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Old 11-18-2019, 09:07 PM
 
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Also: No Chad, a neighborhood cannot "petition the school board" to be zoned out of one school district into another.
They can, but it doesnt mean the school board of the would be receiver nor the would be giver are going to agree.

Stafford did secede from FBISD and HISD in the 80s.
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Old 11-19-2019, 06:12 AM
 
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BTW some news articles about the failed attempt of Northgate Forest to secede from Spring ISD to Klein ISD: Both school boards said no, and I think Spring ISD said the attempt didn't even meet state criteria. Chron.com | News, search and shopping from the Houston Chronicle http://web.archive.org/web/200709301...=apr07petition

There was also an attempt to secede a piece of Katy ISD to Sbring Branch ISD but I think both districts said no too.

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Old 11-19-2019, 07:09 AM
 
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BTW some news articles about the failed attempt of Northgate Forest to secede from Spring ISD to Klein ISD: Both school boards said no, and I think Spring ISD said the attempt didn't even meet state criteria. Chron.com | News, search and shopping from the Houston Chronicle http://web.archive.org/web/200709301...=apr07petition

There was also an attempt to secede a piece of Katy ISD to Sbring Branch ISD but I think both districts said no too.
https://www.chron.com/neighborhood/k...od-6411428.php

Basically the only way you're switching ISD's is if state takes over and merges you into another (North Forest). Otherwise, you're either too valuable (property taxes collected > cost to educate, so no one wants to lose you) or too costly (cost to educate > property taxes collected, so no one wants to add you)
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Old 11-19-2019, 07:12 AM
 
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Except for Stafford MSD...
18,000 of 7M people. So yes, for 0.3% of the Houston metro, ISD = municipal boundary.

I do grant that exception proves the rule, so well done sir or ma'am.
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Old 11-19-2019, 03:56 PM
 
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I believe there were also voluntary consolidations where voters in both districts vote to merge, https://web.archive.org/web/20070312...ownews&id=3409 but that's in rural areas where the population has declined so much that the school districts are no longer viable.

In 2011 there was a proposal in Farmers Branch, Texas to create a new ISD out of parts of CFBISD and DISD but it was overwhelmingly voted down (66% against). Even if it had been voted in, the problem is that Texas has a minimum population rule for making new school districts and Farmers Branch did not meet it. http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2011/05/16/f...-separate-isd/

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https://www.chron.com/neighborhood/k...od-6411428.php

Basically the only way you're switching ISD's is if state takes over and merges you into another (North Forest). Otherwise, you're either too valuable (property taxes collected > cost to educate, so no one wants to lose you) or too costly (cost to educate > property taxes collected, so no one wants to add you)
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Old 11-27-2019, 09:44 AM
 
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I believe there were also voluntary consolidations where voters in both districts vote to merge, https://web.archive.org/web/20070312...ownews&id=3409 but that's in rural areas where the population has declined so much that the school districts are no longer viable.
It used to happen in the Houston metro area. Fort Bend, Clear Creek and Lamar Consolidated ISDs are examples, but it doesn't really happen anymore.

Even the rural mergers nowadays are pretty much the same sort of shotgun wedding that recently joined Texas City and La Marque. They either pass the vote to merge or the state shuts the school down in a couple years or so and makes it happen.
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Old 11-27-2019, 05:11 PM
 
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While I wouldn't consider La Marque/Texas City to be rural, indeed rural school district mergers are "shotgun" weddings as, after a depletion of the student body, it becomes increasingly difficult to run a school district. The last merger was Winfield ISD (which had below 200 students) to Mount Pleasant ISD, in 2018. https://tea.texas.gov/Finance_and_Gr...nd_Annexations

The same story happens in Iowa. In Arkansas there's a state law with a minimum number of students (250) for a school district that generally forces consolidation after two straight years under the minimum.

The State of Texas closed La Marque and ordered its merger to Texas City, just like it did to North Forest (to Houston ISD) and to Kendleton (to Lamar Consolidated).

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Even the rural mergers nowadays are pretty much the same sort of shotgun wedding that recently joined Texas City and La Marque. They either pass the vote to merge or the state shuts the school down in a couple years or so and makes it happen.
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Old 11-27-2019, 07:11 PM
 
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Not all of our suburbs are that big...We have Houston sized suburbs as well.....and some even smaller.

We have 94 Suburbs with populations between 100- 50,000.

We have 6 Suburbs with populations between 51,000-99,000.

We have 9 Suburbs with populations at least 100,000.

We have only 3 Suburbs with populations at least 200,000.

We have 1 joint Suburbs with populations over 300,000.

Here's a list: (scroll down in the article for interactive list)
https://www.hdavidballinger.com/dallas-suburbs.php

The first listed number is it's "livability Rank" amongst suburbs in DFW. Keep in mind that Dallas and Ft.Worth are not suburbs so their ranks are expectedly low.
The second set of numbers are the actual population.

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city/town best
cities/towns
rank residents
Wylie 26 49,826
Wilmer 91 4,136
Willow Park 19 5,340
White Settlement 101 17,828
Westworth Village114 2,726
Weatherford 71 30,654
Waxahachie 81 35,340
Watauga 44 24,602
Venus 54 3,581
University Park 2 25,201
Trophy Club 11 12,340
The Colony 49 42,721
Terrell 110 17,842
Sunnyvale 34 6,491
Springtown 86 2,911
Southlake 1 31,824
Shady Shores 63 2,890
Seagoville 66 16,715
Sansom Park 117 5,836
Sanger 67 8,255
Saginaw 47 23,014
Sachse 29 25,937
Royse City 46 12,567
Rowlett 40 62,868
Rockwall 30 44,208
Roanoke 27 8,135
River Oaks 93 7,703
Richland Hills 62 8,052
Richardson 50 116,783
Red Oak 68 12,780
Providence Village60 7,127
Prosper 5 20,312
Princeton 56 10,159
Plano 28 286,143
Parker 6 4,610
Pantego 74 2,543
Oak Point 64 4,128
Northlake 39 2,776
North Richland Hills 52 70,441
Murphy 15 20,673
Midlothian 41 25,254
Mesquite 100 143,949
Melissa 21 9,212
McLendon-Chisholm 23 2,983
McKinney 25 181,330
Mansfield 31 68,928
Lucas 18 7,483
Little Elm 37 46,548
Lewisville 75 106,021
Lavon 30 3,140
Lancaster 109 38,386
Lake Dallas 57 7,958
Krum 73 5,020
Kennedale 55 8,338
Keller 14 47,266
Keene 102 6,440
Kaufman 107 7,322
Justin 65 3,847
Joshua 58 7,778
Irving 103 240,373
Hutchins 88 5,627
Hurst 61 39,051
Highland Village 8 16,587
Highland Park 3 9,208
Hickory Creek 35 4,596
Heath 12 8,720
Haltom City 89 44,417
Greenville 108 27,443
Grapevine 36 53,982
Grand Prairie 80 193,837
Granbury 84 9,923
Glenn Heights 83 13,084
Glen Rose 98 2,627
Garland 87 238,002
Frisco 17 177,286
Fort Worth 97 874,168
Forney 33 20,336
Forest Hill 105 12,953
Flower Mound 7 76,681
Fate 22 12,090
Farmersville 76 3,466
Farmers Branch 82 37,088
Fairview 4 8,950
Everman 115 6,348
Euless 70 55,174
Edgecliff Village 110 3,021
Duncanville 104 39,487
Double Oak 13 3,079
DeSoto 99 53,568
Denton 78 136,268
Decatur 85 6,721
Dallas 113 1,341,075
Crowley 72 15,389
Crandall 51 3,624
Corinth 38 21,152
Coppell 20 41,941
Commerce 116 9,145
Colleyville 10 26,674
Cockrell Hill 95 4,251
Cleburne 96 30,230
Celina 24 9,836
Cedar Hill 79 48,710
Carrollton 53 135,710
Burleson 48 46,145
Bridgeport 90 6,596
Benbrook 77 23,590
Bedford 59 49,486
Balch Springs 111 25,357
Azle 69 12,495
Aubrey 42 3,391
Arlington 92 396,394
Argyle 9 4,100
Anna 43 12,753
Alvarado 94 4,124
Allen 16 100,685
Aledo 45 4,232
Addison 106
So really the myth of DFW having multiple suburbs with over 200,000 residents is not true at3ell...just 3
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