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Old 12-12-2008, 10:32 PM
 
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No.
you win.

can't argue with crazy.
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Old 12-12-2008, 10:47 PM
 
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Au contraire, quality of life and aesthetics are very much a part of Houston, in the suburbs, where people pay for them themselves.
actually everybody pays for the infrastructure that builds the suburban road system of low density sprawl.

if you live downtown, or montrose, or the heights, your tax dollars pay for that suburban infrastructure.
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Old 12-12-2008, 11:02 PM
 
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actually everybody pays for the infrastructure that builds the suburban road system of low density sprawl.

if you live downtown, or montrose, or the heights, your tax dollars pay for that suburban infrastructure.
No they don't, they pay for the city surface streets.
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Old 12-12-2008, 11:12 PM
 
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No they don't, they pay for the city surface streets.
wrong again. federal and state highway dollars pay for the suburban interstate and arterial expansion projects.

so, unless only people in the suburbs pay federal and state taxes, everybody pays for your streets and commute
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Old 12-12-2008, 11:24 PM
 
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Interstates were routed 40 years ago and designed to connect cities, not suburbs. Cities are their primary beneficiaries. It's how those city residents get their goods delivered.

Federal and state highway dollars come through gasoline taxes so if you're paying those taxes then you're using the roads.

per City of Houston Public Works, there are 6078 lane miles in Houston. per TxDOT, there are 10,219 lane miles in the entire 7 county region including Brazoria, Montgomery, and Waller counties. This means that for all the ballyhoo and roads in the suburbs, the city has far more roads than the suburbs.
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Old 12-12-2008, 11:25 PM
 
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And the trees in the suburbs are generating the oxygen that the people in the city breathe so quit your whining.
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Old 12-12-2008, 11:40 PM
 
Location: ITL (Houston)
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^^Seriously? That tree part is funny. There are like no trees in many suburbs. The City of Houston has a bunch of trees.
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Old 12-13-2008, 12:38 AM
 
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And the trees in the suburbs are generating the oxygen that the people in the city breathe so quit your whining.
quit cryin' about tax $$ spent on rail.

if everyone's collective tax $$ can be spent on 55 years of your low density, strip mall loving, giant road, energy consuming tract home, resource sucking lifestyle,

it can also be spent for people who want a healthy alternative for themselves and the planet.


and there are more roads in the city vs. suburbs because there are more people in the city. but the miles per individual is much higher in the suburbs.

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Old 12-13-2008, 12:55 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Go to bed DiverTodd62. It's the end.
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Old 12-13-2008, 07:28 AM
 
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Go to bed DiverTodd62. It's the end.
Good morning, Houston!
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