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Old 01-14-2009, 08:01 AM
 
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Roberts elementary at Greenbiar/Holcombe is considered as one of those 'prestigious' elementary schools in texas Medical center..

HISD: Drug dogs found pills in teacher's car at Roberts Elementary | (http://www.khou.com/news/local/education/stories/khou090113_tnt_drug-sweep.50a73c8.html - broken link)

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Old 01-14-2009, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Charleston Sc and Western NC
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I know HISD has really been cracking down on the teachers and drugs with the dogs lately. Just makes you wonder what's going on in all the other district that aren't doing this.
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Old 01-14-2009, 08:26 AM
 
Location: San Antonio-Westover Hills
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Drug dogs sniffed around the parking lot, and HISD said they found a few pills in a teacher’s car.

The district said the teacher was unable to produce the proper documentation for the pills and was taken into custody.
Why is this even a story? What were the pills? Ya know, sometimes, I put my Metformin or Synthroid in my pocket to take later that day. I don't walk around with my prescription.

I'd like to see them do more "drug sweeps" on the kids, not the teachers. Somehow, we have gotten things a*s-backwards, and as long as we do, kids will continue to act as they do.

I still don't understand why KHOU chose to run this if they don't have the whole story. I think that's VERY irresponsible.
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Old 01-14-2009, 08:26 AM
 
Location: from houstoner to bostoner to new yorker to new jerseyite ;)
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Yeah, sounds very Big Brother-ish. Yikes.
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Old 01-14-2009, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh N. Hills / Houston-Clear Lake
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I think some people would be shocked if they knew just how many teachers in public schools smoke weed daily, snort lines & mix alcohol + Xanax on weekends... and make some sideline deals on the campuses. Especially single, child-less, cigarette smoking teachers under age 35.

Don't get me wrong -- (with a few exceptions) I don't think it's an employer's business to police what employees do on their free time. However, I don't see what is so ''big brother'' about using drug dogs to scan parking lots. The same thing happens at any place employees have been known to use & deal at work (i.e. construction sites).

The message is simple. To teachers & staff: Leave your personal business at home, and stop turning our public schools into drug dealing arenas. Now put that in your pipes and smoke it!!
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Old 01-14-2009, 09:33 AM
 
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This whole business is BS. If a teacher has her husband's prescription in her car, she gets searched, and busted. It's ridiculous.
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Old 01-14-2009, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh N. Hills / Houston-Clear Lake
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This whole business is BS. If a teacher has her husband's prescription in her car, she gets searched, and busted. It's ridiculous.

That's a good point. There could be a lot of reasons someone gets wrongfully busted. However due to the epidemic I mentioned above, with the policy enforced and beaten into their heads, and the zero-tolerance nonsense, you'd think this teacher would've been a little smarter. There are ways to buck the system.
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Old 01-14-2009, 01:21 PM
 
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As time goes on, drug use is becoming increasingly acceptable. This is especially true with marijuana. I think many Gen-X and younger don't see any danger with marijuana. Ironically, a lot of this is due to the proaganda we grew up with. We were force fed "Pot is bad, it's going to kill you", then we went off to college and saw some of the biggest potheads graduate at the top of their class (can't even say *** laude how funny!)
Now it's coming down to percentages. More people use marijuana than ever. In a profession such as teaching, the sheer numbers of people in the profession guarantee there will be at least a few pot smokers on every campus. It's just a shame these pot smokers don't have enough sense to keep their weed at home. It's also a shame that the war against drugs has become such a huge, money and greed driven industry that a person in this situation gets in trouble. This is getting to be a little much. These drug sweeps aren't cheap and are costing the taxpayers money. It's great when we get the marijuana users that bring drugs to school, but how are the taxpayers going to react when a teacher in this situation shows their prescription and sues the district for millions? It's something that needs to be considered.
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Old 01-15-2009, 07:05 PM
 
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Default It is not big brother, but it is not justice.

This teacher comes in early every day to give kids extra time in her Art room, she teaches Art Club after school. She has worked for the district for, I believe, nearly thirty years, and from what some of the veterans of the school have told me, has been teacher of the year several times. I can tell you that she is one of the most dedicated teachers I have ever met.
During a routine dog search of the parking lot, a dog picked out her car as "suspicious.” When she allowed police to search her car, two prescription pills (I don’t know what) were found loose somewhere inside. At that point, she was unable to produce a prescription for the pills and so, in front of students, staff, and parents, she was escorted out of the building by police and “taken into custody.” In fact, before being placed in the squad car, she was handcuffed.
No one argues that it is not important to keep drugs out of schools and away from our students, least of all this teacher. But this was for two pills in her car, pills that could have gotten there in any number of ways without her knowledge. Because of this, the press has lynched a dedicated teacher, ruining her reputation and hurting her students beyond measure.
If they had found illicit drugs, or even an appreciable quantity of prescription drugs, I think we all could understand the need to take the type of actions that were taken here. But the law must be applied in a reasonable manner and is not supposed to concern itself with trivialities. As lawyers say in the Latin, deminimus non curat lex – the law does not concern itself with trifles. It is for this reason that we give police and prosecutors discretion to not charge people for minor infractions. Clearly, this there is an agenda here, perhaps to enhance some person’s reputation, certainly to show how tough HISD is on drugs.
Put yourself in her position. If a dog picked your car at the grocery store during a random sweep, and the police found two pills in your car, do you think being taken away in cuffs, having your picture on the news with the tag line “found in possession of illegal drugs” would be justice? I think not.
Enough is enough. These searches must be tempered with good sense. First of all, doesn’t HISD realize that the really dangerous teachers would not park in the school lot? Everyone in the system knows they do these sweeps. Second, if something is detected could they not deal with the target of the investigation in a more humane way? This teacher posed no danger, no flight risk, wouldn’t it have been enough to issue a summons to appear rather that requiring public humiliation and arrest. Lastly, do they not consider the effect of their actions on the children who have been traumatized by having a most beloved teacher ripped from their midst on such a contrived basis.
HISD tells its teachers to teach virtue; to instill in children a sense of fairness, empathy, reason, kindness, and to be principled in all things. How can teachers do this when the district itself shows none of these traits? Perhaps they should instead teach hypocrisy, pettiness, abusiveness, ingratitude, vindictiveness, and self aggrandizement for those are certainly the traits they have show the children in this incident. Shame on you all.
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Old 01-15-2009, 07:26 PM
 
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This teacher comes in early every day to give kids extra time in her Art room, she teaches Art Club after school. She has worked for the district for, I believe, nearly thirty years, and from what some of the veterans of the school have told me, has been teacher of the year several times. I can tell you that she is one of the most dedicated teachers I have ever met.
During a routine dog search of the parking lot, a dog picked out her car as "suspicious.” When she allowed police to search her car, two prescription pills (I don’t know what) were found loose somewhere inside. At that point, she was unable to produce a prescription for the pills and so, in front of students, staff, and parents, she was escorted out of the building by police and “taken into custody.” In fact, before being placed in the squad car, she was handcuffed.
No one argues that it is not important to keep drugs out of schools and away from our students, least of all this teacher. But this was for two pills in her car, pills that could have gotten there in any number of ways without her knowledge. Because of this, the press has lynched a dedicated teacher, ruining her reputation and hurting her students beyond measure.
If they had found illicit drugs, or even an appreciable quantity of prescription drugs, I think we all could understand the need to take the type of actions that were taken here. But the law must be applied in a reasonable manner and is not supposed to concern itself with trivialities. As lawyers say in the Latin, deminimus non curat lex – the law does not concern itself with trifles. It is for this reason that we give police and prosecutors discretion to not charge people for minor infractions. Clearly, this there is an agenda here, perhaps to enhance some person’s reputation, certainly to show how tough HISD is on drugs.
Put yourself in her position. If a dog picked your car at the grocery store during a random sweep, and the police found two pills in your car, do you think being taken away in cuffs, having your picture on the news with the tag line “found in possession of illegal drugs” would be justice? I think not.
Enough is enough. These searches must be tempered with good sense. First of all, doesn’t HISD realize that the really dangerous teachers would not park in the school lot? Everyone in the system knows they do these sweeps. Second, if something is detected could they not deal with the target of the investigation in a more humane way? This teacher posed no danger, no flight risk, wouldn’t it have been enough to issue a summons to appear rather that requiring public humiliation and arrest. Lastly, do they not consider the effect of their actions on the children who have been traumatized by having a most beloved teacher ripped from their midst on such a contrived basis.
HISD tells its teachers to teach virtue; to instill in children a sense of fairness, empathy, reason, kindness, and to be principled in all things. How can teachers do this when the district itself shows none of these traits? Perhaps they should instead teach hypocrisy, pettiness, abusiveness, ingratitude, vindictiveness, and self aggrandizement for those are certainly the traits they have show the children in this incident. Shame on you all.
You should send this to the Houston Chronicle. They should pay you for this. Outstanding!
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