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Old 01-19-2009, 12:55 PM
 
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United States of America!
Wow!
People cannot see a doctor because they have no money or insurance. The most embarassing issue in America!
How can you as a country go to other countries to fight foreign wars to teach others how to live their lif when your own people at home cannot see a doctor.
Are this the "Morals and Values" that the Republican Party are talking about?
Universal Health Care is the only civilized alternative to the so uncivilized profit making insurance company system.

No! You cannot call yourself civilized in the 21st century when people have no access to medical care... period!!!

Recently, an old woman was thrown out of an L.A. hospital because her insurance would not cover her extended stay. She was wheeled off on a gourney out of hospital and dumped in the street. The whole incident was caught on tape and exposed on local TV at news!
That is what happens when you mix money and profits with caring for people and thats why the current system leaves tenths of million of Americans uninsured!...sad but true!
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Old 01-19-2009, 01:11 PM
 
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I'm originally from a country with socialized medical care - and let me tell you -- I'd take the US over it any day.

The US medical system does have it's problems, but the biggest problems stem form the insurance companies. When I practiced in another state - I got paid 20 cents on the dollar for the work I did. Insurance companies rob doctors, but it is the doctors who get the bad rap for over charging. Heck, if we could charge what we actually get paid - then we'd cost far less (less need for staffing, billing, etc). I got paid $18.XX for a medicare visit. How do you keep your office open and pay staff on that?
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Old 01-19-2009, 01:29 PM
 
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I'm originally from a country with socialized medical care - and let me tell you -- I'd take the US over it any day.

The US medical system does have it's problems, but the biggest problems stem form the insurance companies. When I practiced in another state - I got paid 20 cents on the dollar for the work I did. Insurance companies rob doctors, but it is the doctors who get the bad rap for over charging. Heck, if we could charge what we actually get paid - then we'd cost far less (less need for staffing, billing, etc). I got paid $18.XX for a medicare visit. How do you keep your office open and pay staff on that?
The whole civilized western world has socialized medical care and none of them are bankrupt and doctors are paid just as much as in America....YES, is the insurance companies that rob doctors and rob patients of adequate and C I V I L I S E D 21ST CENTURY MED CARE!
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Old 01-19-2009, 01:34 PM
 
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I'm originally from a country with socialized medical care - and let me tell you -- I'd take the US over it any day.

The US medical system does have it's problems, but the biggest problems stem form the insurance companies. When I practiced in another state - I got paid 20 cents on the dollar for the work I did. Insurance companies rob doctors, but it is the doctors who get the bad rap for over charging. Heck, if we could charge what we actually get paid - then we'd cost far less (less need for staffing, billing, etc). I got paid $18.XX for a medicare visit. How do you keep your office open and pay staff on that?
you seem to be a Doctor and you have resources and that`s why you`d take US system over yours in your home country.
We`re talking about the disadvantaged people who cannot afford to pay for med care.
Granted, US has the best Doctors and facilities in ther world however, HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE ACCESS TO THAT???????
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Old 01-19-2009, 01:36 PM
 
Location: A little suburb of Houston
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you seem to be a Doctor and you have resources and that`s why you`d take US system over yours in your home country.
We`re talking about the disadvantaged people who cannot afford to pay for med care.
Granted, US has the best Doctors and facilities in ther world however, HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE ACCESS TO THAT???????
Get a grip Flo and don't comment negetively when you are uninformed. One of the biggest lies in the US is that there is no health care for the needy. There is.

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Old 01-19-2009, 01:40 PM
 
Location: A little suburb of Houston
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I am a male and have been putting a personal unknown medical condition off for about 5 years now simply because I am nervous with seeing doctors, and embarassed of my problem and also I have no medical insurance. Can someone please recommend me a doctor that specializes in male checkups that won't charge me an arm and leg. My workplace offers no medical insurance and I cannot afford to get one on my own, and my condition seems to be getting worse. I am curious to find out what it is and hope there is a fix for what I have. I am just nervous because of those 2 factors.

Help would be greatly appreciated.

I would prefer somewhere on the westside Katy area if possible.
Parisby,
Assuming you are a resident in Harris County, the Harris County Hospital District operates several clinics throughout the county that have sliding scale, affordable payment options for folks in your situation. Do not be embarassed. I used their services on several occassions when I did not have insurance coverage during my college years and my experiences were all pretty good.
See the attached link for locations and more information: Harris County Hospital District
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Old 01-19-2009, 02:02 PM
 
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Parisby,
Assuming you are a resident in Harris County, the Harris County Hospital District operates several clinics throughout the county that have sliding scale, affordable payment options for folks in your situation. Do not be embarassed. I used their services on several occassions when I did not have insurance coverage during my college years and my experiences were all pretty good.
See the attached link for locations and more information: Harris County Hospital District
Great piece of info Poltracker, thanx.

Parisby, I've been in cases where I've had extensive insurance and later no insurance but needed to maintain my meds. Along with living in different cities from time to time.

I've found it convenient to use a clinic such as Poltracker references above. I've also discovered that a clinic will charge a great deal less for 'Self Pay' conditions. I've also found that a higher deductible offers extended opportunities for a Physician's attention.

Also, tell whoever on the phone is asking 'Why/What' that you're a bit embarrassed. They'll understand and act as if you're only talking to a machine. They've heard it all.... they're not going to giggle. And a brief but concise indicator of the problem can satisfy their needs to fill in the blank.

Finally, if you need meds, I've found the best 'Self Pay' prices at WalMart Pharmacy.

Make that call. Go ! ! !

Good luck
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Old 01-19-2009, 02:20 PM
 
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you seem to be a Doctor and you have resources and that`s why you`d take US system over yours in your home country.
We`re talking about the disadvantaged people who cannot afford to pay for med care.
Granted, US has the best Doctors and facilities in ther world however, HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE ACCESS TO THAT???????
Flo, yes I am a doctor, but just because I have credentials - it doesn't mean I walked out of school and started rolling in dough. Hell, I've been practicing for 6 years now - and I'm still not rolling in it! I wish.

The average doctor graduates with 100-200K in student loans, and if they want to open their own practice, they have to add another 60-100K of equipment, malpractice insurance, bus. insurance, office build out, staff, advertising costs, etc. Then they hope that they can get enough patients to fill their office, and then they hope that they actually get paid for the services that they perform. Then insurance companies tell them that they will get paid 60% of reasonable and customary, "like it or leave it". Some insurance companies "accidently" lose your claims over and over, or they make you wait an ungodly time for payment. They come back on you two years later to take money away for people you long since treated. You have other patients that bail on paying their deductables, so you don't get paid at all. Don't make doctors the bad guys here - they are just trying to make the best of things within the insurance driven system.

Don't jump to any conclusions about my resources. Even when I was a poor student here, healthcare coverage was a concern. And, I might add - the American system, problems and all, has far more advantages for people than socialized care ever has.

Do you realize that with socialized healthcare comes much higher taxes. Ask Canadians how much they like paying 50% + income tax. Ask them how the allowable services get decreased every year. Ask them if they can find a GP who is taking new patients. Ask them how long it takes to get into their GP. Ask them how long it takes to get into a specialist. Ask them if they can even get into a specialist - because they can't self-direct, they have to have a referral from their GP. Ask them why there is 7 MRI units in the entire province. Houston along likely has dozens of MRI units. Ask them why there is no such thing as wellness care. Ask them why it can take a year to get on a joint replacement list, or 2 years to receive chemotherapy.

I'll tell you what, there is a reason why so many Canadian docs have moved south - it is because the system sucks. And while you blame the US, and think it is so horrible that disadvantaged don't get free healthcare, well you are misinformed. Every state in this nation has an emergency medical act that allows for provisions for medical services.
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Old 01-19-2009, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Charleston Sc and Western NC
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Work harder people!! So you can afford to provide for those who don't provide for themselves. Socialism sucks
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Old 01-19-2009, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Just because you don't have medical insurance doesn't mean that you are not a productive member of society.

We just recently moved back here from England, where even as Americans, we were covered by the national health service--we had no problems with the quality of care, and I am a tough judge, being an RN with 25 years experience.

But, when we moved back here, my daughter, who has epilepsy, cannot get coverage for that disorder through her employer for one year---why??? because she wasn't insured in the US for the prior 12 months. They didn't care that she wasn't even here, and that she was covered under a program in England.

So, she is productive, works full-time, but cannot get coverage.

This is a huge issue.

There are roughly 45 million uninsured Americans, That is not people on welfare--they have Medicaid. Those 45 million are the "working poor", or those who work for small companies that can't afford insurance premiums.

The US needs some sort of health coverage reform--no one is saying "socialized", but just the ability to get care or insurance for a reasonable price.
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