03-10-2007, 06:53 PM
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Hello. I am doing research on various areas of Houston as we are possibly being transferred there. We have visited The Woodlands before and there is no doubt it is nice. What I am really curious about though is whether or not there are a lot of "snobby cliques" in that area. No offense to anyone, but when we were there we spent a little time in Sugarland and people there said there was a lot of that in The Woodlands. The area that we live now (in the north) is very much like that and I hate it. It is just flat out known for being that way. Do you know if The Woodlands really does have a reputation as such?
We are also looking at Katy, and would like to look more south towards the water but we're not sure if we will have the time for more research.
Thanks in advance for any input.
03-10-2007, 07:57 PM
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I just moved here from the North last year and can say if you like "The Woodlands" area then check out Spring. It is "The Woodlands" with out the higher price tag. "The Woodlands" (notice the quotes LOL) does have a bit of snobbish factor. It is really over priced. I live off of Rayford Rd and have a beautiful house. In "The Woodlands" it would be about 20k more. This is just a few miles from "The Woodlands." In fact turn right onto Sawdust instead and your in "The Woodlands."
If you have kids you really don't want them to goto "The Woodlands" schools unless they can drive a Hummer or Escalade to school. The area of Spring I live is the Conroe school district. Conroe is a very good school district.
Living here is great. We get to use "The Woodlands" for its good parts, but not live with the bad parts. Although I maybe moving soon I love my house and neighborhood.
Where will you be working? How long do you want your commute to be? If you want to hear more about where I live let me know. Also the streets and roads are a mess down here. Roads stop and start, you hit a dead end then suddenly you go around and there the road starts again.
03-10-2007, 09:26 PM
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dpn0121, Thank you for that information. Yes, we do have a child and she will not be driving a Hummer or Escalade to school. Those were the types of things I had heard about The Woodlands. I'm sure that may not be the case for everyone, but I would worry if it was the majority. I just don't want to get in an area that tends to have the clique thing going on.
I will check out Conroe on the internet this weekend. The commute is not an issue as my husband has a home office, thankfully!!
I am worrying myself sick about our child changing from an average size school to such a large school. It's just so scary when you read about gangs in schools, etc. Do you know much about the Katy area/schools?
Thanks again.
03-10-2007, 10:00 PM
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I do not sorry, but I have read on the forum that it is also nice.
03-11-2007, 09:42 AM
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dpn0121, Thank you for that information. Yes, we do have a child and she will not be driving a Hummer or Escalade to school. Those were the types of things I had heard about The Woodlands. I'm sure that may not be the case for everyone, but I would worry if it was the majority. I just don't want to get in an area that tends to have the clique thing going on.
I will check out Conroe on the internet this weekend. The commute is not an issue as my husband has a home office, thankfully!!
I am worrying myself sick about our child changing from an average size school to such a large school. It's just so scary when you read about gangs in schools, etc. Do you know much about the Katy area/schools?
Thanks again.
Hi there--new to posting here, but not to the forum. I just wanted to point out that in any city, town, etc you are going to have a group of "rich kids". It is unavoidable, there isn't a town in this state that doesn't have them on various income levels and the message is always the same. It is up to us as responsible parents to make sure OUR message gets through all that crap that our kids see. The Woodlands is no different from Sugar Land with snobbery, IMHO, or any other place in the US. The only way to avoid cliques is to move to 50 acres of unrestricted land somewhere, homeschool your kids, watch church on TV, and have your groceries delivered.
My best friend in high school drove a BMW. I never could understand why I couldn't have one too at the time, but now I do, and that is what is important. My friend is still floundering with entitlement issues from his parents and he's 36 years old. It is kinda sad.
Just stick to your guns with your kids and show them the right way and they'll flourish no matter where they are.
03-11-2007, 10:03 AM
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03-11-2007, 02:20 PM
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Woodlands
I have been living here for the last three years and we are getting ready to move to Denver because of my husband's job. When we first arrived, we lived in the Southern end of town (Grogan's Mill) and now we live in Cochran's Crossing. There was no snobby feeling at all to the school in Grogan's Mill. The population was diverse and the elem. school was phenomenal. It's close to the freeway and you may be able to find a nice, inexpensive, albeit older home in this area (zip 77380).
Now, we live in Cochran's Crossing (77381) and the elementary school (Galatas) has its share of rich folk driving expensive cars. Where you sense the snobbiness is when you are around PTA volunteers. The kids don't know the difference between the classes and frankly, I feel it's up to us, as the previous person mentioned, to teach kids our values etc. There is a fantastic church here if you are interested, called Northwoods Unitarian, if you are interested in a liberal, humanist, family friendly church.
The Middle School for this area is fantastic with a great principal. (Mitchell Interm.). Again, some nice cars, but others no so nice. Teachers are overall great, and this school has won awards for being in the Top schools of Texas.
I wouldn't worry about the snob thing in The Woodlands. Just find a nice family friendly neighborhood, check out the school in person if you can, and go for it. Moderator cut: house info We have a pond around the corner for kids to fish, and it's a great cul de sac street with great kids/neighbors. I am very liberal/anti-snob, and I love it here. My husband's a pilot working out of Denver, so we have to get closer to him or else we would stay.
Good luck! Let me know if you have any questions! Glad to help.
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03-11-2007, 04:08 PM
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This is also my first post here. I recently moved to Grogan's Mill and love it - cost of living so far has been very reasonable and the people I've met have been friendly and helpful. Just the change I've been looking for although I've not spent much time in the other villages - I know some are quite exclusive but I am certain you will find plenty of good and unpretentious people in every one of them.
Although I don't have kids, one of the wonderful things about the area is seeing them walking home from school or out on their bicycles without constant supervision. What a change from Houston where my family can't even let their children out in the front yard or turn them loose in their own neighborhood. Every time they want to ride bikes, they have to load them up and take them to Rice University or Memorial Park...not good, so this has been very refreshing.
Snobby cliques will always exist but I was given very good advise when I was younger: Rise Above It...and I did and am now comfortable living and working around those from all walks of life - it's the way I was brought up and never felt deprived at all. I grew up in a privileged area in Houston but I was not privileged. So I chose my friends carefully, but never begrudged or *lusted* after their more extravagant lifestyle which was unattainable for my beautiful mother who raised 8 children alone. There are good and bad people all over the place, regardless of their finances...or lack thereof.
The fresh air is wonderful at the moment, the trees are beautiful, I'm adapting to the slower pace real good and life in the 'Sticks' is great. Hope you will consider this area.
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Thanks everyone for all the great comments. I completely agree about it being more important how we raise our children. We live by those values daily, but I am definitely going to shy away from an area that is just flat out known for snobbish behavior. Where we live now is just unbelievably snobbish and I just don't care for it. I am just fine in that I can handle myself around it, but for me it's a choice and I would rather be around people that don't worry about keeping up with the Jones'.
It sounds like The Woodlands is great and that one could be in an area where there is not so much of that. I think it is larger than what we realize as well.
It is on the top of our list and your comments/input are much appreciated. Thanks again.
05-14-2007, 04:27 AM
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Thanks everyone for all the great comments. I completely agree about it being more important how we raise our children. We live by those values daily, but I am definitely going to shy away from an area that is just flat out known for snobbish behavior. Where we live now is just unbelievably snobbish and I just don't care for it. I am just fine in that I can handle myself around it, but for me it's a choice and I would rather be around people that don't worry about keeping up with the Jones'.
It sounds like The Woodlands is great and that one could be in an area where there is not so much of that. I think it is larger than what we realize as well.
It is on the top of our list and your comments/input are much appreciated. Thanks again.
If you are interested in the coast area, there are a lot of nice homes down here, and the area has just about everything you would need. For cultural events, Houston is about 45 mins. to an hour, and Galveston is also 45 mins away. Clear Lake, Seabrook, League City areas are nice, and the Clear Creek ISD has a very good reputation.
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People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)