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Old 03-27-2009, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Thing is though this happens everywhere and has forever. Only difference now is there are cell phone cameras and YouTube.
Yeah, I know. It reminds me of when I was in school. Although no one picked on me. I was very tall for my age so they wouldn't try anything with me except call me a giraffe. And no, I wasn't doing the bullying. I was too shy for that.
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Old 03-27-2009, 12:01 PM
 
Location: I-35
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Wow youtube thats great, hell I have I a post from me at work on this site. Nothing to see hear move along :~
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Old 03-27-2009, 01:35 PM
 
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Thing is though this happens everywhere and has forever. Only difference now is there are cell phone cameras and YouTube.
I grew up in Pearland and this behaviour never would have been tolerated. Why are they allowed to block the luch line and make so much noise? If I ever saw someone picking on a special needs child I would step in and stop it. This is not kids being kids, it is worthless kids being worthless!
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Old 03-27-2009, 01:56 PM
 
Location: where nothin ever grows. no rain or rivers flow, TX
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tstone and jfre talks like theyre black parents but hey this 'tolerance' is basically the cause of all this bullcrap. to think some kid cant be expelled by carving a 'star' on his head and was thought to be gang sign, then they should use all they can to get rid of these wanna be thugs or atleast get their mamas on their behinds. we.dont.care.about.these.kids.getting.left behind. they can work at the junk yard in the future but its really irresponsible to let this or any type of bullying at school because the interest and safety of other kids is at risk.
man, i'm so glad I didnt grow up with black people like these, or even hispanic or white thugs 'having fun' that you have to find a way around them to get some food. thats the whole point of these videos - to prove they scare people. if theyre not official gang members yet they would be recruited thanks to youtube. it does not need to be a real chapter, they would do the same crimes and oppressive behavior once they think theyre 'legit' gang members.
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Old 03-27-2009, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Charleston Sc and Western NC
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When they used to beat kids in school, this stuff still happened. But it happened once, just once.
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Old 03-27-2009, 05:40 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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This broke my heart seeing the downs boy having to walk past those thugs. I dont care if it something other people did as stupid kids. It is wrong to make fun of and intimidate people who are different. Where are the teachers? What type of education are these kids getting? It certainly isnt civics!
If I were the parents of the boy with Downs I would be livid!
The teachers -- who are there to teach classes, not provide crowd control -- are probably in their classrooms teaching (or eating lunch during the lunch video). I'm sure you were really wondering about the whereabouts of the administrators and staff members who should be the ones responsible for things like lunch duty and patrolling hallways. I would be hard-pressed trying to place the blame on teachers rather than parents when kids act out or to say that whatever they are teaching "isnt [sic] civics" because the kids are choosing to behave this way.

I definitely agree re: behavior towards the special needs student. The parent(s) should have taught these students from a young age that they should respect and celebrate differences rather than mock them. Parents can easily model more appropriate behavior in this regard when out in public places.
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Old 03-27-2009, 06:43 PM
 
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Default Effect of PC...

This is a result of political correctness run amok. Teachers cannot punish these kids for goofing around, and more absurd, parents cannot punish their teenagers because they can be reported for 'child abuse'.

Granted, the use of corporal punishment has limits, but it is often translated, applied, and defined differently be people that even just a good old fashioned hand spank on one's bottom could get a parent arrested, and children taken away.

It is very normal to act out in high school; trying to fit in, peer pressure, harmones. It causes teenagers to do weird things. However, what can teachers do? As EasilyAmused noted, all through elementary school, and through my sophomore year (law was changed), the paddle was the enforcer. I recieved a few in my years. What is funny now is that I never told my parents, else I would have gotten in even more trouble.

So, you can say these are bad kids, and that it's the teachers fault, and the parents should raise better kids, I agree with all that. But when it comes to the schools, what are the teachers to do if their parents don't do anything? Their hands are figuratively tied.
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Old 03-27-2009, 07:00 PM
 
Location: from houstoner to bostoner to new yorker to new jerseyite ;)
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Old 03-29-2009, 06:37 AM
 
Location: from houstoner to bostoner to new yorker to new jerseyite ;)
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Thread reopened. Carry on.
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Old 03-29-2009, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Clear Lake, Houston TX
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I'm not trying to act like a black parent. This exact thing was going on in the highly acclaimed Fort Bend ISD schools some 15 years ago. All kids sat or stood around in clusters wherever they landed. The retarded kid walked by and screamed and they had a cheap, 10 second laugh. (A flashing or mooning was worth a 1 minute laugh. ) And these guys weren't necessarily blocking any lines. Many of these schools have 3000-4000 kids (with 1400-1500 fresh fish) and the hallways between classes flow packed to the walls. During lunch every day, there was standing-room only all 4 years of my HS days.

Wysiwyg, you never dealt with blacks like these because you didn't grow up in the Southern US. The rest of the country thinks TX and the rest of the south is chock full of morons due to the antics displayed this video.

Anyway, I say let them have their fun while they still can. Because many of these idiots who carry on with this past age 18 will find their future lies in traveling to the worst parts of the country, breaking their backs as construction laborers. Or they'll open car stereo stores out of their trunks, drug stores out of their 1-room apartments, and work at the local Quicky-Lube.

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