Alert for Sugar Land residents (school districts, college, income)

[EEstudent]

Originally Posted by AK123

Your whole response is just silly. But I won't get into it all.

Anyone who makes comments like that (that it would be good to mix the kids together) needs to do a little research on Sharpstown, Alief and Bammel/Spring. What started out as one or two complexes and a seemingly good idea, snowballed into more complexes. The schools went downhill, middle and middle-upper class families sprawled out further to find better schools, and now those once great areas are run-down, the lower-income kids are no better off than before, and Houston gets more sprawl, traffic and long commutes. So tell me, is this what you would like to see happen to this area?

You obviously don't know the area the complex is proposed, which is not in the Sugar Land city limits even though it has a Sugar Land postal address. So "Sugar Land cops" would rarely be involved, it would be Fort Bend County.

This would probably never fly in the Sugar Land city limits - the city would be all over it.

The developer is trying to sneak it in an area on a winding, small two lane road that isn't very busy (and he probably hopes few people will see the sign announcing the hearing date/time).

Oh, and he's tried to develop the same complex elsewhere... and what a surprise, others didn't want it in their area either.
http://www.glenshire.org/Newsletters/2007-05.pdf

Get out of college, start a family, become a homeowner and you know what - if someone tried this in an area zoned to your kids' schools, I bet you'd feel differently. Otherwise, with all due respect I think you're just talking out of your inexperienced butt.

Well the experience that I am deriving from is the one of my own. The reason why I'm suggesting that these high school kids be at-least exposed to the hardships of the outside world is because, when they do go to College they will still assume that High School never really ended.
I know countless number of people at UT that still live in a bubble... but they will eventually come out and hopefully see what people really do go through.

There are people that go to UH from Clements and it hits them right in their face when they see the neighborhood around UH. Its a real shock...

SO yea i dont own a home and have kids... but I still dont think its that bad of an idea to have a mixture of kids from different backgrounds going to the same school.. the exposure would be better IMO.

[Hstnbnd]

but I still dont think its that bad of an idea to have a mixture of kids from different backgrounds going to the same school.. the exposure would be better IMO.

Well, by personal experience with my own children's education, this most certainly IS/WAS a bad idea. My children (now adults) are of considerable intelligence, coupled with good manners and respect. The school district "decided" to leave no one behind and mixed everyone's classes together. As my children were DIRECT participants in this so called good idea, their experience is fact, they would come home wanting to stick a fork in their eye as THEY cold not learn with the constant interruptions from, poor behavior, much slower students who needed really one on one for EVERYTHING and disrespectful even dangerous students, who were of the "let's put everyone together and the quality will rise" programs. WRONG. BAD IDEA. Always was and always will be. Have kids, then decide.

[EEstudent]

Originally Posted by Hstnbnd

Well, by personal experience with my own children's education, this most certainly IS/WAS a bad idea. My children (now adults) are of considerable intelligence, coupled with good manners and respect. The school district "decided" to leave no one behind and mixed everyone's classes together. As my children were DIRECT participants in this so called good idea, their experience is fact, they would come home wanting to stick a fork in their eye as THEY cold not learn with the constant interruptions from, poor behavior, much slower students who needed really one on one for EVERYTHING and disrespectful even dangerous students, who were of the "let's put everyone together and the quality will rise" programs. WRONG. BAD IDEA. Always was and always will be. Have kids, then decide.

Then your kids should have just taken Honor/GT courses.. those classes tend to weed out all the slow/disrespectful kids out. Thats what most of us at Clements did, all the kids that really didnt give a hoot about their future just took the bare minimum. But those who wanted more just made the choice to go to Honor and upper level classes.

I'm not saying you have to be with the "slow or disrespectful" kids... you just have to know its out there.

[AK123]

Originally Posted by EEstudent

I'm not saying you have to be with the "slow or disrespectful" kids... you just have to know its out there.

Okay, well then do it with your kids. When you actually have some one day.
But please don't speak for the rest of us.

[Hstnbnd]

Mine did. With combined college courses they were allowed to take during their junior/senior year only showing up at the HS for a few hours as credits needed. Believe me, they took advantage of that. But I believe they would have done much better from Junior High to HS had they not been deterred by that system. Their frustration of the total environment wantd to keep them home most days. And it should not have to be like that. For instance: ZERO Tolerance...Ha!...Some jerk who is not socially functional who starts a fight for whatever peabrain reason, BOTH get Expelled/Suspended, especially if you defend yourself. Just one tiny example.

[EEstudent]

Originally Posted by AK123

Okay, well then do it with your kids. When you actually have some one day.
But please don't speak for the rest of us.

Im just suggesting that it really isn't that bad of an idea. I'm trying to find the positive light in it.... you guys take things too personally.

[Hstnbnd]

Before entering MS/HS, my children were unaware of the division of social status/races, etc. School taught them that and it left a horrible taste in their mouths so it IS personal when it involves your OWN children.

[EEstudent]

Originally Posted by Hstnbnd

Mine did. With combined college courses they were allowed to take during their junior/senior year only showing up at the HS for a few hours as credits needed. Believe me, they took advantage of that. But I believe they would have done much better from Junior High to HS had they not been deterred by that system. Their frustration of the total environment wantd to keep them home most days. And it should not have to be like that. For instance: ZERO Tolerance...Ha!...Some jerk who is not socially functional who starts a fight for whatever peabrain reason, BOTH get Expelled/Suspended, especially if you defend yourself. Just one tiny example.

But come on.. you cant honestly say that you've never been in a fight for some stupid reason... fights are just a part of growing up. Now as for the zero tolerance thing... yea its retarded it really should boil down to who wants to pick a fight.. i totally agree with you on that one.

[Hstnbnd]

Originally Posted by EEstudent

Im just suggesting that it really isn't that bad of an idea. I'm trying to find the positive light in it.... you guys take things too personally.

Shaking head...YOU miss the point. Why should MY children have to be the brunt of a failed system to teach them poor character traits or possible recruitment into an undesirable life (or death) while the social derelicts move on continuing to be social derelicts as mine have to fight and scrape to remain in standing with their own moral/societal upbringing. Where are THEIR rights to a safe decent education????

[Hstnbnd]

I can honestly say I have never been in a physical fight for some stupid reason.