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Old 10-14-2009, 03:10 AM
 
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Okay, I'm really confused, but after thinking about it, I think I got it figured out.

I was heading out of my apartment complex (I live about 30 min outside of Houston), was heading to class, and saw a police car escorting a black limo. There was a long space after that, and then for some reason everyone behind them was only in one lane (4 lane highway, 2 each direction). They left the lane next to them open. So I waited about 10 minutes, and when traffic started going again in the opposite direction (they all were in park on opposite side of the highway waiting), I went in to the flow of cars.

Since they all weren't using the other lane, I got in the lane along with the other cars, because I thought there had to be a reason they weren't using it for the police. A minute later, a bike cop came out of no where and yelled at me to "pull the **** over - his exact words).

I pulled over, waited another 10 minutes, saw him pass in the mean time, then went along to class.

I read up on a couple of places on the internet. I'm thinking it was a funeral of some sort, but I had no clue at the time. I didn't even know they escort funerals, there wasn't even a casket.

So from the sound of it, do you think I was right in my conclusion? And was there any way I could have been ticketed for doing something like that?

thx, it's been really bugging me.
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Old 10-14-2009, 03:45 AM
 
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It was most probably a funeral procession or some VIP that they were providing security for.
Most likely a funeral procession. Escorts for those are provided in most states. But if it was a funeral there should have been a hearse and then a limo, so it could have been a security thing for some big wig.
You probably wouldn't get a ticket unless you disobeyed the officers order to pull over or impeded the progress of what ever they were escorting.
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Old 10-14-2009, 03:57 AM
 
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Ah okay. Yeah, I didn't see a hearse. Must have been a security thing then. I pulled over as asked, as I had no clue what was going on... The first cop was far out of sight, and didn't even see a bike cop.

Thanks Robhu

By impede, you mean disrupt, right? Would getting in the line of cars that were part of it consider as an impeding act (ticketable)? I had no clue!
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Old 10-14-2009, 05:10 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Did any of the cars have their headlights on? Usually the cars in the procession have their headlights on with a police car at the end. If the procession is very long then there may be additional cops (I've seen them on motorcycles) along the outside of the line of cars as well. The police will stop traffic at intersections and lights to let the entire procession through. If that's what it was, then you are not supposed to get in the line but you can usually go beside it.
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Old 10-14-2009, 05:40 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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Ah okay. Yeah, I didn't see a hearse. Must have been a security thing then. I pulled over as asked, as I had no clue what was going on... The first cop was far out of sight, and didn't even see a bike cop.

Thanks Robhu

By impede, you mean disrupt, right? Would getting in the line of cars that were part of it consider as an impeding act (ticketable)? I had no clue!
If you entered into the line of escorted traffic it could have been considered impeding or obstructing or even menacing if it was a security detail.
The cop must have realized that you didn't do whatever you did as an act of aggression or disrepect.
The other poster is right. Funeral escorted cars usualy have lights on and a little flag on the antenna or roof.
Don't worry about it. No harm, no foul.
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Old 10-14-2009, 08:08 AM
 
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By impede, you mean disrupt, right? Would getting in the line of cars that were part of it consider as an impeding act (ticketable)? I had no clue!
There is not a general all-around "impeding traffic" law in Texas. You can "impede" under certain circumstances, like driving too slowly
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An operator may not drive so slowly as to impede the normal and reasonable movement of traffic, except when reduced speed is necessary for safe operation or in compliance with law.
You can impede if you're riding a bicycle,
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Persons operating bicycles on a roadway may ride two abreast. Persons riding two abreast on a laned roadway shall ride in a single lane. Persons riding two abreast may not impede the normal and reasonable flow of traffic on the roadway. Persons may not ride more than two abreast unless they are riding on a part of a roadway set aside for the exclusive operation of bicycles.
And, you can also "impede" traffic into and out of driveways and on the grounds of state schools,
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It is unlawful for any person to park a vehicle on any property under the control and jurisdiction of a state institution of higher education of this state except in the manner designated by the institution and in the spaces marked and designated by the governing board, or to block or impede traffic through any driveway of that property. All laws regulating traffic on highways and streets apply to the operation of vehicles within the property of the institution, except as may be modified in this subchapter.
There is a Class B Misdemeanor in the Penal Code for Obstructing Highway or Other Passageway, but more than likely, if you were going to be cited for anything, it would have been "Failure to Obey a Police Officer".
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A person may not wilfully fail or refuse to comply with a lawful order or direction of: (1) a police officer; or (2) a school crossing guard who:
Unless it was a funeral, and you were inside a municipality like the City of Houston which has a law regulating funeral processions, which includes:
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No driver of a vehicle shall drive between the vehicles comprising a funeral or other authorized procession while they are in motion and when such vehicles are conspicuously designated as required in this division.
There are probably another half dozen or so laws one could think of that could be applicable, but for the most part you would have to be fairly obnoxious in your driving to actually get a citation for getting mixed up in a funeral procession. Probably, in most cases, so obnoxious that you would be going to jail rather than getting a citation.
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Old 10-14-2009, 09:14 AM
 
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Funeral esorted cars and cop cars are completely different; cops don't even help in the funeral precessions anymore, I buried my Grandmother about a month ago and it was ridiculous how things have changed. A car with blinking lights that's obviously a funeral procession car leads the way, and half of the red lights we stopped at people didn't realize what was going on(a funeral procession with about 50 cars following it) or they just didn't care. It's sad, I realize that some people are in a hurry but you can't wait less than 5 minutes out of respect? Oh and this was in StL, not Houston.
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Old 10-14-2009, 12:43 PM
 
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I don't know all of the circumstances, but it seems you did the right thing. If an officer tells you to "pull over", it is a good idea to do so. The reasons may not always be apparent. Cops are pretty smart, and can usually tell if you are "willfully" disrupting things, or just not totally aware of the immediate circumstances. good luck in the future.
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Old 10-18-2009, 09:36 PM
 
Location: H-town, TX.
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Funeral esorted cars and cop cars are completely different; cops don't even help in the funeral precessions anymore, I buried my Grandmother about a month ago and it was ridiculous how things have changed. A car with blinking lights that's obviously a funeral procession car leads the way, and half of the red lights we stopped at people didn't realize what was going on(a funeral procession with about 50 cars following it) or they just didn't care. It's sad, I realize that some people are in a hurry but you can't wait less than 5 minutes out of respect? Oh and this was in StL, not Houston.
Budget cuts, I guess.

One day a few weeks back, I was stuck behind a funeral procession on an on-ramp by Almeda Mall and cops escorted that one. I tried to go around it, but ended up being stopped as it crossed in front of me.

My one irk-inducing incident with a procession...about six years ago, I'm heading out from under an overpass and all of a sudden this relected sunlight glare nailed me right in the eyes and I slammed on my brakes right in the middle of the intersection! A split second later when I came to my senses and realized that a hearse was coming, I scooted across and out of the way. The cop was looking my way and I rolled down the window and apologized and he nodded and went on his way.

That was not a cool feeling being zapped by the shiny motorcycle trim from hell!
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Old 10-19-2009, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Houston/Heights
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Houston has some of the best Cops anywhere. We are lucky that way. I use to show my ignorance growing up. and not one time have they ever not been Professional in my treatment. ---well, almost never. but hey, nobodies perfect, right?
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