What Makes a Neighborhood Go Downhill in 20 Years? (high school, eat)

[jimboburnsy]

In the 70's Fondren SW was an up-and-coming neighborhood full of energy professionals. It was hit really hard by the oil collapse of the 80's and there were a lot of foreclosures and distressed sales. Land values were not terribly exclusive and the schools began to slide.

The nice houses are still there and the owners are still nice but the public areas are very public and the schools are bad enough to actively discourage the influx of new blood.

[SteveArmy]

Originally Posted by Alphalogica

There is this thing call artificial intelligence, which is rapidly advancing. Also, in a true post-scarcity scenario, virtually all labor (and the decisions required by machines to conduct that labor) would be delegated to non-human intelligence. (Bots) We're not quite there yet. Energy is abundant (in the form of solar and wind, namely), but currently (as of 2010) we lack the tools to efficiently harness that energy. That is another development that man-kind is still working on. It's a hypothetical scenario that is still by some estimations at least 50 years away.

Also, in such a hypothetical society where a monetary economy is phased out, many forms of crime could go away too (i.e. theft, bank robbery, drug dealing) as many forms of crime are due to monetary/material gain. "Money is the root of all evil."

dude your posts freak me out

[EasilyAmused]

Originally Posted by SteveArmy

dude your posts freak me out

The rich cause crime.. gotta love it.

[jcash]

Originally Posted by Alphalogica

There is this thing call artificial intelligence, which is rapidly advancing. Also, in a true post-scarcity scenario, virtually all labor (and the decisions required by machines to conduct that labor) would be delegated to non-human intelligence. (Bots) We're not quite there yet. Energy is abundant (in the form of solar and wind, namely), but currently (as of 2010) we lack the tools to efficiently harness that energy. That is another development that man-kind is still working on. It's a hypothetical scenario that is still by some estimations at least 50 years away.

Also, in such a hypothetical society where a monetary economy is phased out, many forms of crime could go away too (i.e. theft, bank robbery, drug dealing) as many forms of crime are due to monetary/material gain. "Money is the root of all evil."

Sounds alot like a "Zeitgeist Movement" idea to me. One issue all these non-monetary future societies and ideologies seem to miss is the one thing we all have and will never get rid of.... Greed.

[Alphalogica]

Originally Posted by jcash

Sounds alot like a "Zeitgeist Movement" idea to me. One issue all these non-monetary future societies and ideologies seem to miss is the one thing we all have and will never get rid of.... Greed.

The Zeitgeist Movement is related, but I'm more or less just a regular techno-optimist Singularitan. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technological_utopianism If we have no money, producing goods is as easy as duplicating software, and you could produce your own goods via molecular assemblers into anything you wanted http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molecul...Nanoassemblers greed could potentially go away.

I'm sure there's some NASA scientist or nanotech researcher at Rice out there who is tracking what I'm saying.

[Alphalogica]

Originally Posted by EasilyAmused

The rich cause crime.. gotta love it.

Never said the rich cause crime. Read my posts.

It's a widely held belief that our monetary-based society in which scarcity exists causes many social ills (poverty, crime, war, etc). For instance, it's widely known that at least one of our wars (if not both) in Iraq was at least partially-influenced by our (current) scarcity for energy (oil).

[jcash]

Originally Posted by Alphalogica

The Zeitgeist Movement is related, but I'm more or less just a regular techno-optimist Singularitan. Technological utopianism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia If we have no money, producing goods is as easy as duplicating software, and you could produce your own goods via molecular assemblers into anything you wanted Molecular nanotechnology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia greed could potentially go away.

I am leaning towards a non nano machine future. I hope we pass that stage in our evolution before the grey-goo kills us all .LOL! IMHO Most of the uses for nanites as an assembler method will be outdated before an "atom assembler" ever hits the free market.

Regardless there will always be greed.

[Alphalogica]

Originally Posted by jcash

I am leaning towards a non nano machine future. I hope we pass that stage in our evolution before the grey-goo kills us all .LOL! IMHO Most of the uses for nanites as an assembler method will be outdated before an "atom assembler" ever hits the free market.

Regardless there will always be greed.

Without money, how could there be greed? People would always have the desire to have what they want, but if people know that what they have can be easily replaced (through nanotechnology), greed would vanish.

[jcash]

Originally Posted by Alphalogica

Without money, how could there be greed? People would always have the desire to have what they want, but if people know that what they have can be easily replaced (through nanotechnology), greed would vanish.

Not saying I know how or what will be the face of greed. Just saying that we will as humans find a way to be greedy about something. Maybe it will be location maybe it will be other people! Trust me, If a human is involved there will be greed.

[EasilyAmused]

Being "better," leader, head of the pack..is animal nature. It's usually rewarded by something, which in today's society is MONEY. So even if you take away money, something else will be created as a "symbol" to represent the strongest.


Animals will never stand around the campfire holding hands...someone will always get eaten.