Houston, New Eldorado for Vietnamese Americans ? (Orange, Bellaire: salons, real estate, rent)

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Vietnamese-Americans flocking from SoCal to Houston

Over the holidays, the LA Times ran an interesting piece on the mass migration of Vietnamese-Americans from southern California to Houston (hat tip to Joel). Lots of good excerpts in here. Bold highlights mine.

Vietnamese Americans are lured to the Texas city by cheap real estate, a lower cost of living and a burgeoning cultural enclave.
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Nguyen is one of many Vietnamese Americans from California who have flocked to Houston, lured by cheap real estate, a lower cost of living, bountiful business opportunities and a thriving, growing Vietnamese community.

Houston offers a slice of the American Dream to Vietnamese Americans who couldn't find it in California.

In San Jose and Orange County, home to the country's largest Vietnamese enclaves, skyrocketing rents and staggering housing prices -- even in a down market -- have become too much for some.

"At first, we thought California is the best," Nguyen said. "It's sad to move from a place we know so well. But here we own a beautiful house and are very comfortable."

Vietnamese business owners from California have followed, expanding or moving their operations to take advantage of the burgeoning community and the lack of heavy competition that defines the teeming streets of Orange County's Little Saigon.

The Vietnamese American migration to Houston is a typical California story, particularly in immigrant communities where residents found their first footing in the Golden State but left for places where the cost of living was lower and the opportunities more abundant.

The exodus of Vietnamese Americans is part of a larger shift in California: As the economy weakens, more people are leaving. An annual study by the state Department of Finance released Wednesday showed that 89,000 more people moved out of California than moved in from elsewhere in the U.S. in fiscal 2007.

Houston's Vietnamese community, now the third largest in the nation, numbered about 85,000 in 2006 -- up a third in just six years, according to U.S. Census figures. (HAIF says 160-180K in the Houston metro; enclaves ranked here)

Community leaders and real estate agents in Houston say they started seeing an upswing in Vietnamese Americans from California five years ago, driven mostly by the city's cheaper housing. Although Hurricane Katrina brought in displaced Vietnamese Americans from Louisiana, residents say the California migration is much larger.

As people have flocked in, Houston businesses have capitalized, reaching out to Vietnamese Americans in California. Real estate agents have advertised houses in California's Vietnamese newspapers. Developers have tried to persuade businesses to expand to Houston. And talk shows on Radio Saigon Houston have spread the word of the booming community in simulcast shows picked up on California stations.

Houston is no longer the Vietnamese community's "best-kept secret," said Thuy Thanh Vu, the radio station's co-owner.

Houston's housing tale is remarkable. Real estate agents boast of clients who sell their California homes, pay for new ones in Houston at a third of the price and have enough left to invest.
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The median price for a single-family home in the Houston area is $145,390, according to the Houston Assn. of Realtors. In contrast, Westminster's median housing price is $520,000 and Garden Grove's is $475,000, according to DataQuick Information Services. In San Jose, it's $640,000.

"For what you pay for your mortgage in Houston, you can only afford a rat's hole in California," Vo tells clients.

Vo makes sure to put Houston's best face forward. She picks up prospective California clients from the airport and puts them up in hotels -- free of charge -- for a few nights. She drives clients around the Vietnamese areas, stopping at restaurants she's sure will impress them.
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Vietnamese businesses have sprouted in pockets throughout Houston, with most concentrated on a four-mile stretch of Bellaire Boulevard in the city's southwest area. The thoroughfare has striking similarities to Bolsa Avenue, Little Saigon's main drag.

There are Vietnamese supermarkets, large Catholic Vietnamese churches, Buddhist temples and restaurants hawking bowls of noodles that to visitors taste as good as those served in Little Saigon's pho houses. There are Vietnamese-speaking doctors, lawyers and real estate agents. Even the hottest Vietnamese pop stars stop in Houston.

Some Vietnamese-owned businesses from California see Houston's thriving enclave as an untapped market and have expanded their businesses.
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But Ho saw many open fields in Houston, which he believes will one day be home to new stores. Plus, the rent for opening a warehouse in Houston is about a third cheaper than in California.

Vietnamese American investors also are pumping millions of dollars into the area, which still has plenty of open space to build shopping complexes and housing subdivisions.

Developer Luu Trankiem is planning to open the New Saigon Shopping Plaza next year, a high-end center on 32 acres near Bellaire Boulevard. The plaza's seven high-rise buildings come at a price of about $300 million.

"You cannot afford to build something like this in California," he said, estimating it would cost three times as much in Southern California.
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Trankiem said he saw more opportunities for new businesses in Houston than in Little Saigon, which is congested with thousands of nail salons, restaurants and mom-and-pop shops in fierce competition.

"Houston is the last frontier for investment in the Asian community in the United States," Trankiem said.

Beyond Vietnamese-run business, prospective stores for the plaza also include Ann Taylor and Starbucks, mainstream shops that Little Saigon developers would have trouble luring to its worn-out strip malls.

Houston's Vietnamese enclave also benefits from its diversity. It's next to a long strip of Chinese businesses. Korean, Latino and Pakistani stores also pepper the area. In contrast, Little Saigon caters mostly to Vietnamese Americans.

Trankiem believes Houston's Vietnamese enclave could one day be the bigger, better, higher-end sister to Little Saigon.

Even so, Houston has its challenges. The oppressive humidity forces many to stay indoors during the summer, and some people who have bought homes for investment purposes have had trouble finding renters.

But those who have made the move have found the American Dream at near-bargain rates.

Nguyen's parents, who still rent in California, plan to move to Houston when they retire.

And she's thinking about opening an insurance business. She never thought that was a possibility in Little Saigon, where renting office space is expensive and there are too many competitors.

"Over in California, you're just average people," Nguyen said. "But here, you become upper middle class. You have more money than people over here. You can buy houses and do business."

More support for Houston as an Opportunity City. And it's not just SoCal Vietnamese-Americans. Has anybody else noted the surge in out-of-state license plates driving around lately? They're coming from all over. The secret is getting out.

And this article = 2008.Apparently these trends accelerated

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Originally Posted by RenaudFR

And this article = 2008.Apparently these trends accelerated

Yeah, I am South Asian (Indian) and that group is growing by quite a lot in Houston as well.

It's nice to see Houston become more diverse with each passing day. California's loss is our gain.

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Originally Posted by OmShahi

Yeah, I am South Asian (Indian) and that group is growing by quite a lot in Houston as well.

It's nice to see Houston become more diverse with each passing day. California's loss is our gain.

Exactly
And these vietnamese americans move their businesses, it's very good for Texas economy !

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Originally Posted by RenaudFR

Exactly
And these vietnamese americans move their businesses, it's very good for Texas economy !

Houston's* economy.

I'm proud of all the Texas cities equally, just Houston a little tiny bit more! Haha!!

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Originally Posted by OmShahi

Houston's* economy.

I'm proud of all the Texas cities equally, just Houston a little tiny bit more! Haha!!

Yeah, mostly Houston ^^"
I think Houston should attract cubans from Miami and Arabs from Detroit, these communities are rather rich and good in business

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Originally Posted by RenaudFR

Yeah, mostly Houston ^^"
I think Houston should attract cubans from Miami and Arabs from Detroit, these communities are rather rich and good in business

I feel very bad for Detroit, it's been going downhill for them.

They're losing city proper population and metropolitan area population: They're the definition of a "dying" city.

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Originally Posted by OmShahi

I feel very bad for Detroit, it's been going downhill for them.

They're losing city proper population and metropolitan area population: They're the definition of a "dying" city.

Yes, it's an economic lesson for all of us :
-A city must have a diversified economy (Detroit = car industry)
-A city must be competitive (low taxes, many jobs, good infrastructure)

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Originally Posted by RenaudFR

Yes, it's an economic lesson for all of us :
-A city must have a diversified economy (Detroit = car industry)
-A city must be competitive (low taxes, many jobs, good infrastructure)

The tax part is what's making California in general seem like an unattractive place right now. Also, no state income tax in Texas.
Property taxes might be high, but it beats having to pay state income tax. Property tax- they're well spent on the community.

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Originally Posted by OmShahi

The tax part is what's making California in general seem like an unattractive place right now. Also, no state income tax in Texas.
Property taxes might be high, but it beats having to pay state income tax. Property tax- they're well spent on the community.

The advantage of property taxes ? It's the "Tax of your choice" !
You don't want to give much money ? Buy a small house.
You are ready to pay much money in property taxes ? Buy a mansion
A freedom tax

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Originally Posted by RenaudFR

The advantage of property taxes ? It's the "Tax of your choice" !
You don't want to give much money ? Buy a small house.
You are ready to pay much money in property taxes ? Buy a mansion
A freedom tax

I view property taxes as pretty good alternatives. They go into the community, to help pay for renovations in schools, help build more schools, help make the neighborhoods better.

It's well worth it, I trust that more than paying income tax, because I know my tax dollars there are probably going to pay for our senators and governors next trip to Las Vegas...

Which is why Texas > California (even with their Governator!!)