Chattanooga Fiber. (Huntsville: construction, moving, radio)

[stonestatue]

Thank you friday13, AuburnAL, ReggaeCharley, NoleFanHSV, and Tourian for your intelligent and contributory responses.

And yes, I did miss that article. Boy oh boy, if Huntsville develops fiber internet, me and my buddies can play World of Warcraft and Monopoly all day long! I'll never even have to leave the house!

[ReggaeCharley]

Originally Posted by stonestatue

Thank you friday13, AuburnAL, ReggaeCharley, NoleFanHSV, and Tourian for your intelligent and contributory responses.

And yes, I did miss that article. Boy oh boy, if Huntsville develops fiber internet, me and my buddies can play World of Warcraft and Monopoly all day long! I'll never even have to leave the house!

This will never happen. It is Bush's fault!!!

[NoleFanHSV]

Originally Posted by Tourian

It was lame and dysfunctional down here until Charter suddenly decided to step up their game. Now 30Mbps is a cheap reality whereas before anything above about 9Mbps was prohibitively expensive for most households.

But gigabit speeds are way more sexy. Instead of wishing four high speed rail to connect the big four metros, or any other pie in the sky dreams, Bentley should make a push to get Alabama connected at ultra high speed internet. What a great PR win that would be for the whole state to send to the nation that we suddenly have cutting edge connectivity.

The problem is that high speeds are an illusion. I have 50mbps down with comcast. If I go to their site I get 45mpbs download using their site. Any other site I might get 10mbps download. Most webservers can't dish high speeds out. Even some dedicated ftp or download sites can't. I downloaded something from download.com and was suprised to get 35mbps down. Are netflix and hulu servers going to dish out at 50mbps? High speeds only work if servers at the other end can handle the throughput.

I could see gaming servers benifit if those who put up those servers can handle limited number of players at those speeds. That might be interesting.

[Tourian]

Originally Posted by NoleFanHSV

The problem is that high speeds are an illusion. I have 50mbps down with comcast. If I go to their site I get 45mpbs download using their site. Any other site I might get 10mbps download. Most webservers can't dish high speeds out. Even some dedicated ftp or download sites can't. I downloaded something from download.com and was suprised to get 35mbps down. Are netflix and hulu servers going to dish out at 50mbps? High speeds only work if servers at the other end can handle the throughput.

I could see gaming servers benifit if those who put up those servers can handle limited number of players at those speeds. That might be interesting.

I used to regularly get around ~80Mbps at speedtest when we first got on with Charter after leaving Uverse. It was incredible, but way too good to be true. Now it has settled down to ~35 which is still more then they advertise, for residences (they offer up to 100 for businesses). I didn't so much think of it as being fluff or fake because it was SOOO much better then ~12 with Uverse, but I totally get what you are saying when the sites we regularly use don't feed the data that quickly. I definitely prefer the bottleneck not being on my end, if I can help it.

[NoleFanHSV]

Originally Posted by Tourian

I used to regularly get around ~80Mbps at speedtest when we first got on with Charter after leaving Uverse. It was incredible, but way too good to be true. Now it has settled down to ~35 which is still more then they advertise, for residences (they offer up to 100 for businesses). I didn't so much think of it as being fluff or fake because it was SOOO much better then ~12 with Uverse, but I totally get what you are saying when the sites we regularly use don't feed the data that quickly. I definitely prefer the bottleneck not being on my end, if I can help it.

As infrastructure moves forward, much of the bottleneck will be at the server end. Too much money was already spent for what businesses currently have and they don't want to upgrade.

I remember having an HDtv without HD. I was waiting on Comcast to get HD, and even when they did, it was only a few channels.

I'm actually thinking of going to Uverse due to my comcast issues, but thats a whole 'nother topic.

[Tourian]

Originally Posted by NoleFanHSV

As infrastructure moves forward, much of the bottleneck will be at the server end. Too much money was already spent for what businesses currently have and they don't want to upgrade.

I hear ya, but it is always market forces at work. Someone, somewhere is going to offer it, and then the others will have to follow suit. This thread made me curious and I see now where I can upgrade Charter to 100Mbps, they were probably letting me try it out since they were new to the neighborhood and then turned it down to 30 on us once they got sichyated.

I remember having an HDtv without HD. I was waiting on Comcast to get HD, and even when they did, it was only a few channels.

I'm actually thinking of going to Uverse due to my comcast issues, but thats a whole 'nother topic.

I think that is going to be the driver. UltraHD streaming will be a reality some day and everyone will need the bandwidth to support it. I remember hearing how the gap between HD and the next level was way too high to be a commercial reality because the gap was so huge, now just ten years (I think it was when I read it) later, here it is. It just isn't going to stop until we are all one with Skynet.

[AuburnAL]

Originally Posted by NoleFanHSV

As infrastructure moves forward, much of the bottleneck will be at the server end. Too much money was already spent for what businesses currently have and they don't want to upgrade.

I remember having an HDtv without HD. I was waiting on Comcast to get HD, and even when they did, it was only a few channels.

I'm actually thinking of going to Uverse due to my comcast issues, but thats a whole 'nother topic.

Does anyone not have issues with those guys?

[curzon_dax]

I'm curious about the new tech's that emerge once we are sending GB data instead of MB. Maybe it will start to become practical to share CAD designs, and then home 3D printers could print out objects for around the house. Or maybe voxel technology will become more prevalent, and we will start scanning in voxel images from patients and transmitting them to a specialist somewhere else. It will also be easier to control the impending wave of embedded systems that will at some point be in nearly everything we see and interact with every day. And with GB transfer speeds, code could be compiled and everything could be reprogrammed remotely.

Anyways, those are all reasons to not be late to the party. Huntsville may have a better job market than Chattanooga at the moment, but when you hesitate on adapting new technologies you are letting bright entrepreneurs take their business elsewhere.

[ReggaeCharley]

Originally Posted by curzon_dax

I'm curious about the new tech's that emerge once we are sending GB data instead of MB. Maybe it will start to become practical to share CAD designs, and then home 3D printers could print out objects for around the house. Or maybe voxel technology will become more prevalent, and we will start scanning in voxel images from patients and transmitting them to a specialist somewhere else. It will also be easier to control the impending wave of embedded systems that will at some point be in nearly everything we see and interact with every day. And with GB transfer speeds, code could be compiled and everything could be reprogrammed remotely.

Anyways, those are all reasons to not be late to the party. Huntsville may have a better job market than Chattanooga at the moment, but when you hesitate on adapting new technologies you are letting bright entrepreneurs take their business elsewhere.

Advancements will not be in speed or pipe width. The real breakthrough is in compression. You will understand soon... Total parasympathetic

[Dirt Grinder]

Originally Posted by ReggaeCharley

...The real breakthrough is in compression...

Please explain to those of us who know little about data compression.