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Old 02-20-2018, 02:08 AM
 
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The story I heard had something to do with a clause in the deed for the land all around ditto that would not allow any development of the surrounding land when it was deeded to Huntsville.
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Old 02-22-2018, 10:18 AM
 
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I am confused, is this a done deal, meaning, has Huntsville annex and purchased the land in Morgan county or are they waiting for some type of tax payer approval? Also, is it finalized that a 60 acre lake will be dug?
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Old 02-22-2018, 11:15 AM
 
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I am confused, is this a done deal, meaning, has Huntsville annex and purchased the land in Morgan county or are they waiting for some type of tax payer approval? Also, is it finalized that a 60 acre lake will be dug?
A presentation of the plan will be presented tonight at city council, they will probably vote on it the next council meeting. I don't think anything with this is finalized, and the city doesn't expect any infrastructure spending for now.

I doubt this really changes anything for Huntsville or Morgan county. The motivation is coming from the developer that believes he will be able to sell the lots/houses easier if they are in Huntsville for school/police/fire zoning. Both Morgan county and Huntsville will get increased property tax revenues and maybe some sales tax if a small commercial development is included.
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Old 02-22-2018, 11:24 AM
 
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Huntsville to discuss annexation into Morgan County | Morgan County | decaturdaily.com

Here is a little more information on his plans.

35 farm/estate lots, an event center already being built (I would assume a liquor license is key to this), and a park on 200 acres of land donated to the city named after Wisda's parents.
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Old 02-22-2018, 08:54 PM
 
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It's official: Huntsville annexes land into Morgan County
Posted Thursday Feb 22, 2018 8:00 PM

Huntsville set to cross Tennessee River, annex part of Morgan County
Posted Thursday Feb 8, 2018
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Old 02-23-2018, 08:44 AM
 
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Of course, they won't do what they need to do with the land. More homes and a recreation area. We'll whoopty do.

How about a river walk with restaurants, retail, bars, and maybe an ampitheater?
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Old 02-23-2018, 10:05 AM
 
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Of course, they won't do what they need to do with the land. More homes and a recreation area. We'll whoopty do.

How about a river walk with restaurants, retail, bars, and maybe an ampitheater?
I interned in the planning department for a summer several years ago. This is brought up to them all the time. This is what I was told/overheard.

The problem centers around flooding and the population center. A lot of this area is regulatory flood zone, which means you basically can't build anything on it with some small exceptions. The rest is AE flood zone that would make this type of development extremely expensive. You would need to bring in tons of dirty to build up the entire area and then prove that it wouldn't affect anyone up or downstream.

Then you have the fact that the area is really only convent for a small portion of the Huntsville metro. Outside of South Huntsville and maybe Hampton Cove this is easily a 30 min - 1 hour drive from Madison, Harvest, North/NE Huntsville, Decatur, Athens. Developers and retail are driven by population centers and traffic counts.

The cost to build anything mixed with lack of surrounding population just hasn't allowed the numbers to work.

Interestingly, there have been some plans for the area, but haven't been successful and are now used as flyers to try and sell land down from Ditto including Hobbs Island. I think if the southern bypass it built and growth continues into Owens Cross Roads and Lacey Springs you will eventually see something.


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Old 02-23-2018, 11:48 AM
 
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The problem centers around flooding and the population center. A lot of this area is regulatory flood zone, which means you basically can't build anything on it with some small exceptions. The rest is AE flood zone that would make this type of development extremely expensive. You would need to bring in tons of dirty to build up the entire area and then prove that it wouldn't affect anyone up or downstream.

The article said they were going to dig a 60 acre lake. This would be plenty of dirt.
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Old 02-23-2018, 01:03 PM
 
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The article said they were going to dig a 60 acre lake. This would be plenty of dirt.
The 60 acre lake already exist on Wisda's property.
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Old 02-23-2018, 04:21 PM
 
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I interned in the planning department for a summer several years ago. This is brought up to them all the time. This is what I was told/overheard.

The problem centers around flooding and the population center. A lot of this area is regulatory flood zone, which means you basically can't build anything on it with some small exceptions. The rest is AE flood zone that would make this type of development extremely expensive. You would need to bring in tons of dirty to build up the entire area and then prove that it wouldn't affect anyone up or downstream.

Then you have the fact that the area is really only convent for a small portion of the Huntsville metro. Outside of South Huntsville and maybe Hampton Cove this is easily a 30 min - 1 hour drive from Madison, Harvest, North/NE Huntsville, Decatur, Athens. Developers and retail are driven by population centers and traffic counts.

The cost to build anything mixed with lack of surrounding population just hasn't allowed the numbers to work.

Interestingly, there have been some plans for the area, but haven't been successful and are now used as flyers to try and sell land down from Ditto including Hobbs Island. I think if the southern bypass it built and growth continues into Owens Cross Roads and Lacey Springs you will eventually see something.


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And Nashville, Chattanooga, or Jacksonville don't flood along their rivers?

Yeah, I understand it's not city center. But look at other metros. It's still a drive to go from the suburbs to the city center. All my family and friends ask why isn't it built up down by the river. I live in meridianville, and would easily drive to an ampitheater, river walk, or a brewery down on the river. It's a really nice area that is completely understand utilized. People keep clinging onto our downtown and I just don't see the appeal. Sitting outside eating and looking at a small park or old building? Or would I rather sit outside along a river with some rolling hills? It's the same reason beaches and lakes are so popular to build on.
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