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Old 08-09-2018, 06:22 AM
 
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What is wrong with Interstate 24 and Interstate 59 in Georgia and Tennessee?
due to the amount of traffic and terrain big backups are a frequent occurrence and if here is any type of accident, better hope you have something to eat and have had a restroom break.
aldots comments yesterday about this I-14 dream pretty much kills any chance and basically what we are saying in this thread. No money, no plans, no way. Said there are are lots of wishful ideas out there but funding and environmental issues (going through the Talladega National Forest, ain't happening).
How and why these folks got so much press about this is funny in itself.
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Old 08-09-2018, 07:00 AM
 
Location: Madison, Alabama
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Redstone Arsenal will kill any plan for any bypass southwest of Huntsville for security reasons.
That roadway, the Patriot Parkway, was all set to go until 9/11 happened. Retracting the plans may have been a bit of a kneejerk reaction and might be approved if brought up once more.
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Old 08-09-2018, 08:35 AM
 
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I could see Patriot Parkway being built similar to United States Route 27/280 going through Fort Benning in Georgia.
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Old 08-09-2018, 08:50 AM
 
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That would make sense but theres this thing called Redstone arsenal which makes it difficult for mass transit.
Sure mass transit won't work for everybody but it should be part of a larger solution. The other component, promoting density, would help as well. In the case of the Arsenal what makes more sense: dense developments in areas near the Arsenal or subdivisions from here to Tennessee with packed 6-8 lane highways connecting them. I'd argue that Huntsville should be planning and pushing for the former.
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Old 08-09-2018, 08:55 AM
 
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Sure mass transit won't work for everybody but it should be part of a larger solution. The other component, promoting density, would help as well. In the case of the Arsenal what makes more sense: dense developments in areas near the Arsenal or subdivisions from here to Tennessee with packed 6-8 lane highways connecting them. I'd argue that Huntsville should be planning and pushing for the former.
Huntsville is always planning transportation,
Huntsville Area Metropolitan Planning Organization – huntsvillempo.org
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Old 08-09-2018, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Madison, Alabama
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Sure mass transit won't work for everybody but it should be part of a larger solution. The other component, promoting density, would help as well. In the case of the Arsenal what makes more sense: dense developments in areas near the Arsenal or subdivisions from here to Tennessee with packed 6-8 lane highways connecting them. I'd argue that Huntsville should be planning and pushing for the former.
The ... or a ... problem with mass transit to Redstone Aresenal is that each individual must have an ID to get through the gate. Don't know how they'd handle that with trains or even buses. NASA has tour buses from the Space & Rocket Center (they were discontinued after 9/11 but have since been reinstated) and I'm not sure how security is handled with them, and there's only a few a day. It's probably because the riders are tightly controlled at each stop instead of being turned loose.

Gate 9 is adding 2 more entry points for a total of 8, I think. So Rideout Rd southbound will go from 3 lanes to 8 entry points, then back down to 3 lanes, much like a toll gate (with the associated pandemonium jockying for position). All of them are only open during morning rush though ... other times only 2 are open.

Patriot Parkway was to be a limited access freeway with fences to eliminate venturing onto the base except at gates. It was going to be a part of the Memphis-Huntsville-Atlanta highway (ha ... a joke nowadays) but it's still a viable concept in my opinion.
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Old 08-09-2018, 06:03 PM
 
Location: Jack-town, Sip by way of TN, AL and FL
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due to the amount of traffic and terrain big backups are a frequent occurrence and if here is any type of accident, better hope you have something to eat and have had a restroom break.
aldots comments yesterday about this I-14 dream pretty much kills any chance and basically what we are saying in this thread. No money, no plans, no way. Said there are are lots of wishful ideas out there but funding and environmental issues (going through the Talladega National Forest, ain't happening).
How and why these folks got so much press about this is funny in itself.
The terrain would still be terrible if they cut from say, Scottsboro, over to Calhoun or Cartersville, GA. That's a terrible idea and it will never happen, for good reason. AL 72 to I-24 is the only possible interstate addition.
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Old 08-09-2018, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Madison, Alabama
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The terrain would still be terrible if they cut from say, Scottsboro, over to Calhoun or Cartersville, GA. That's a terrible idea and it will never happen, for good reason. AL 72 to I-24 is the only possible interstate addition.
It would be a fantastic route, but yes, won't happen because it would cost a fortune because of the terrain. Even relatively flat roads, like I-22, cost a fortune nowadays.

The 15 mile segment between Armuchee, GA and Adairsville, state highway 140 is being widened in Georgia which will ease the trip somewhat to the north side of Atlanta, assuming one goes through Mentone and Summerville, GA. That's the best route from Huntsville to Atlanta, and is likely to remain that way. It's 50 miles shorter than the 72/24/75 route.
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Old 08-09-2018, 09:07 PM
 
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What is wrong with Interstate 24 and Interstate 59 in Georgia and Tennessee?
24 is a dumpster fire lol ok
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Old 08-10-2018, 06:43 AM
 
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It would be a fantastic route, but yes, won't happen because it would cost a fortune because of the terrain. Even relatively flat roads, like I-22, cost a fortune nowadays.

The 15 mile segment between Armuchee, GA and Adairsville, state highway 140 is being widened in Georgia which will ease the trip somewhat to the north side of Atlanta, assuming one goes through Mentone and Summerville, GA. That's the best route from Huntsville to Atlanta, and is likely to remain that way. It's 50 miles shorter than the 72/24/75 route.

That is the best route. I have made it from downtown Huntsville to downtown Atlanta in 3 hours and 15 minutes.
Of course that's rare depends on weather, no wrecks, log trucks, school busses or huge backups on I-75 around Marietta. Under 4 hours though is normal.
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