Best Huntsville High School? (Madison, Redstone Arsenal: low income, renting, crime)

[Charles]

All-City Showdown: Grissom, Huntsville To Battle For State Title - WHNT

[Charles]

Originally Posted by Charles

All-City Showdown: Grissom, Huntsville To Battle For State Title - WHNT

Huntsville High School defeats Grissom for State 6A title - al.com

[NetTechJr]

Originally Posted by wisebeard1

My girlfriend is moving to Huntsville Alabama with her 17 year old daughter. I'd like to see her daughter attend the best public high school in the district. I have heard there are some schools to avoid at all cost.
What is the safest school with the best learning environment?

Hello, as i am a 17 year old girl. I figured my advice might help. I just moved 2 weeks ago from that area and i lived there for 16 and a half years, i know alot about the schools there. You want to avoid Butler High. Not a great school and crime is high. The best school in the area is Grissom. Highest test scores and no they do not push kids aside. They treat everyone the same and offer alot of extra things to keep the kid busy outside of school.

The 2 main ones you want to avoid are:
Butler High School
Lee High School

These 2 schools are high in violence especially Butler. Hope this helps. If you need more info feel free to message me.

[NetTechJr]

Btw, Madison County High is not actually in Madison. Everybody just thinks it is. Its actually in Gurley, its not even close to Madison.

[friday13]

Originally Posted by NetTechJr

Btw, Madison County High is not actually in Madison. Everybody just thinks it is. Its actually in Gurley, its not even close to Madison.

I don't. Madison County High could've been anywhere in Madison County (as the name suggests). They found a suitable vacant lot in Gurley - which is Madison County.
Nobody thinks the high school is Madison City High, and thus located in MAdison City. But everybody knows that at this time there's only one high school in Madison city - Bob Jones

[deesonic]

Originally Posted by NetTechJr

The 2 main ones you want to avoid are:
Butler High School
Lee High School

These 2 schools are high in violence especially Butler. Hope this helps. If you need more info feel free to message me.

Oh come on now... Going to a "violent" school like Butler builds character. And I's got character out the wazoo!

[Elizabeth_G]

Bob Jones played Butler last night at Bob Jones. We all felt so sorry for the poor kids that played from Butler. NO parental support in the stands and only 13 kids from their band were there. It really was sad. I feel badly for those kids.
When Bob Jones has an away game, we fill up the stands. Makes the kids feel like the parents care.

[Charles]

Originally Posted by Elizabeth_G

Bob Jones played Butler last night at Bob Jones. We all felt so sorry for the poor kids that played from Butler. NO parental support in the stands and only 13 kids from their band were there. It really was sad. I feel badly for those kids.
When Bob Jones has an away game, we fill up the stands. Makes the kids feel like the parents care.

Final score (as if salt were needed to rub):

Bob Jones (10-1) 56
Butler (0-10) 0

[deesonic]

Originally Posted by Charles

Final score (as if salt were needed to rub):

Bob Jones (10-1) 56
Butler (0-10) 0

Yeah, things have changed greatly over the years. My senior year at BHS (90-91), we were 6A and BJHS was 5A. We played BJHS for homecoming because they were an easy win. We beat them 40-0 at Joe Davis Stadium in front of a packed house as I recall. I probably ran for 100+ yards in that game. As Bruce Springsteen once sang, "Glory days..."

[Charles]

Originally Posted by deesonic

Yeah, things have changed greatly over the years. My senior year at BHS (90-91), we were 6A and BJHS was 5A. We played BJHS for homecoming because they were an easy win. We beat them 40-0 at Joe Davis Stadium in front of a packed house as I recall. I probably ran for 100+ yards in that game. As Bruce Springsteen once sang, "Glory days..."

Originally Posted by Reactionary

Overall, HSV City Schools have ~37K capacity and ~24K students, lots of empty seats (40%). Butler HS is at one third capacity, Johnson HS is at about half capacity, Columbia / New Century is full, Huntsville is full, Lee HS is at about half capacity.

Originally Posted by Reactionary

Huntsville City Schools (school - capacity%)

Schools with more empty chairs than kids:

Academy for Science and Foreign Language (44%)
Butler High School (35%)
Chaffee ES (47%)
Davis Hills MS (45%)
East Clinton ES (33%)
Lee High School (49%)
Morris ES (42%)
Ridgecrest ES (48%)
Rolling Hills ES (44%)
Stone MS (35%)
Terry Heights ES (40%)
Westlawn MS (27%)
West Huntsville ES (41%)
West Mastin lake ES (39%)

Schools with more kids than chairs (at overcapacity):

Columbia and New Century HS (101%)
Grissom HS (140%)
Hampton Cove ES and MS (110%)

Schools at capacity:

Blossomwood ES, Huntsville HS, Monte Sano ES, Providence ES and MS.

I asked in an earlier thread, what the student body size of Butler was in the 1980s or so. It was much greater than today and, from the post above, produced more powerful athletic teams (though I've heard Butler's basketball team is still pretty good).

What do you (and the forum) think the main reasons are for Butler's (and Lee and Johnson????) student body decline? Is it demographic, meaning there are a lot less high school aged kids in those schools' zones? Is it school choice, meaning kids from those zones have opted to attend out of zone schools like Huntsville and Grissom? Private schools? Something else?
Does the federal desegregation order exacerbate this unevenness?