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Old 11-06-2008, 01:40 PM
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Wow, you are a really bitter person!

Thanks for repeating the points I just made in my post!

Holy repitition Batman!

And no, I don't watch much tv! I work for a living!

I did see a lady on youtube saying that now that obama is president she won't have to worry about paying her mortgage any more.

Wow............ignorance!
Believe whatever you want to but like I said there is much ignorance on both sides, you are a prime example of it. You are the one that seems very bitter over the election results. I acknowledge there are some ignorant Obama supporters and I speak out against ignorance regardless of who it comes from. You assume you know why people voted for Obama (your assumption because he's black) without even talking to them and asking them, that's not very intelligent. You work for a living? What's that supposed to mean don't most people? What does that have to do with watching news? News information is available 24 hours a day, oh I see, you must be trying to deny that you saw any of those ignorant McCain supporters that were on the news so that way you can continue to keep repeating the lie that all ignorant people voted for Obama. Anyway I've had enough of this discussion, have a nice day.

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Old 11-06-2008, 02:59 PM
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Maybe I'll quit my job and do so! Then I might see things from a democrats point of view!

doh.........It won't stop and I can't control it! Maybe there is a government program that could help me...............

see, there I go again.........
I think Hannity's on. Time for your daily dose of cool-aid isn't it?
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WOW...Ok, folks -- REDIRECTING you here: http://www.city-data.com/forum/polit...controversies/

Please, let's not turn this forum in to one of those...plenty of that already...everywhere I go. Nowadays I wear gloves and slick up so the shiat rolls right off.

BTW, I was one of those 100. Even though I'm not a R.P. fanatic...Truther...uh, no...not even too keen on Barr. 'Small L, I guess.
My husband laughed at me. Really.
I was otherwise mocked, ridiculed online by both sides. Caused liberal foaming, pun intended.
How dare I!? Vote my conscience, against either major party candidate and support the philosophy that -at this time and place- most closely resonates with my national ideal?

But hey, I'm used to it.

(OK, was that enough to move it along, elsewhere?)
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Old 11-06-2008, 06:48 PM
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Why complain about a thread with a fundamentally political topic "voting experience" when it becomes political?

If the thread were about photo shoots or brown recluses, I could see the complaints. But then I don't want to suppress free speech like the Left in this country does.
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Old 11-06-2008, 07:14 PM
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Why complain about a thread with a fundamentally political topic "voting experience" when it becomes political?

If the thread were about photo shoots or brown recluses, I could see the complaints. But then I don't want to suppress free speech like the Left in this country does.
Funny your friend Southlander complained about this thread discussion having gone too political also. I'm pretty sure Southlander is a conservative isn't that right?
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Old 11-06-2008, 09:36 PM
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Why complain about a thread with a fundamentally political topic "voting experience" when it becomes political?

If the thread were about photo shoots or brown recluses, I could see the complaints. But then I don't want to suppress free speech like the Left in this country does.
How nauseating.... A topic about your voting experience is no more 'fundamentally political' than if I asked about your experience at the gas pump today. So, ask me about my gas pump experience today. Should I go off on a 'blood for oil' rant? Good Lord, Reactionary. How long have you been in Alabama now? Give me an example of the Right in this state standing up for free speech, freedom of thought, freedom of opinion (by PM of course). The Republican Party in this state with ALCAP allies is THE chief offender of trampling constitutional rights and denying civil rights to the citizens of this state. How is legislating of your morals an example of defending the Constitution? Sometimes defending the Constitution requires that we stand up for things that we disagree with, lest we find someone denying rights that you and I hold dear. FTH for example?

But city-data.com is a private entity. They have no legal obligation to guarantee the First Amendment to any of us. This forum exists at their pleasure. Moderators have the right to censor content on this forum as they see fit. I've been warned myself on here a time or two for statements much less controversial than those brought up in this thread. Based on the thread title and original post, the OP did not solicit anyone's political opinions or ideology. They simply wanted to know what your voting 'experience' was like. An innocent enough question I'd say. Therefore, the subject of abortion is way off topic. When you were standing in line to vote, did you start screaming "Obama voters are baby killers!"? Of course you didn't. Someone would've pounded your face in. Why anonymously do it here behind the safety of your computer screen?

Moderators are well within their rights to ban or censor individual posters if they choose. Private entities have no constitutional requirement to guarantee your right to run your freakin' trap about whatever you want. But like a true Libertarian, I'm asking moderators NOT to ban or censor anyone here but to ENCOURAGE folks to stick to the topic and maintain a modicum of decorum here. City-data.com, as I see it, is not a political forum. As I mentioned, there are plenty of political boards available on the Internet for you all to discuss whatever controversial topics you would like.

Don't give me any nonsense about the Left not standing up for free speech. I wore the uniform of the US Amry for 9 years so you could tell ME that I don't support the First Amendment? Your self-righteousness BS will keep you on the fringes of our society for some time.

Somebody probably should abort this thread quick.

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Huntsville_secede. Point taken. I still object to complaints about politics in a voting thread.

And separately, I object to Leftists wanting to suppress free speech. And I am horrified by the brownshirts in Bessemer who tried to suppress Historic Bessemer's voting rights.

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Old 11-06-2008, 09:52 PM
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deesonic - you are so wrong (and IMO too angry - I expect more civility from you). Which party has controlled the State legislature since Reconstruction? To which party did George Wallace and Bull Connor belong?

How has the Alabama GOP trampled Constitutional Rights? For example, the gay marriage ban in the State Constitution that passed in Alabama was proposed by a black Democrat from Selma. The State GOP happens to agree, but as you know or should know, the AL GOP can't pass any laws in Alabama.

As for the abortion issue, both Griffith (D) and Parker (R) made a point that they were pro-life. Not many people in Alabama would 'pound faces' over support for that issue.

Certainly a moderator can enforce the rules, and I can obey, appeal (at times successfully BTW), or leave. There exists a c-d politics forum, and moderators prefer that political discussions stay there. But Keeper has allowed local political discussions as long as it is relevant to Alabama (and stays within designated political threads). IMO this is one, but I could be wrong about that.

"fringes of our society"? So both Griffith and Parker are on the fringes of society?

BTW, 'legislating morality' is what laws are all about.

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Old 11-06-2008, 10:14 PM
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For all practical intents and purposes, were Wallace alive today (his 50-60s era civil liberties trampling, moral legislating self) he would be a right-wing Alabama Republican or a right wing evangelical Democrat. I really don't care. Take your pick. "States Rights" Southern Democrats resisted making the switch for many years because the Republican Party was viewed as the party of Lincoln until the civil rights movement made them reconsider. That's when old Alabama Dems jumped to the Republican Party proper (they were already on the Right on social issues anyway). Current Democrats in this state are typically social conservatives, hence the gay marriage bans, alcohol laws etc. But this is typical of both parties in this state. You know doggone well we don't have any San Francisco style Nancy Pelosi types in this state, no matter how hard Wayne Parker tries to pin that on Griffith. But I'm not here to defend Alabama's Democratic Party. As I said earlier, I'm not a registered Democrat. You can ask one of them for clarification if you like. I generally take the Democratic NATIONAL party stance on social issues though. I'm a socially liberal, economic conservative Libertarian (which is to say I'm a typical Libertarian actually). I'm a male Southern white Alabama native whose family has been here about 5 generations deep. I'm well aware of the history of my state. I even met George Wallace and Guy Hunt once when I was kid at Boys' State. I thought they were both idiots.
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And separately, I object to Leftists wanting to suppress free speech. And I am horrified by the brownshirts in Bessemer who tried to suppress Historic Bessemer's voting rights.
I'm horrified by Historic_Bessemer's accusation that anyone who votes for Obama is a "baby killer." And Reactionary, I'm nearly as horrified at your support of such incendiary divisive language. If he or she has been directly affected by abortion in his/her life as they say, I suppose they should take that up with his/her own family. My wife and I have never made such a choice in our own lives, nor would we. But I don't run your life. And it's not any Obama supporters fault that you have been subjected to such an unfortunate situation. My aunt was murdered by my cousin's ex-husband with an unregistered handgun. Does that make you somehow partially responsible for my aunt's murder for supporting the Second Amendment? Or me for that matter? Should I consider you somehow responsible for that?

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