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08-02-2009, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by HB2HSV
A GS 9 in Huntsville area starts at $47,280 a year.
An entry level engineer at Boeing starts at $67,000 a year.
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That's what I like to hear. |
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08-02-2009, 04:30 PM
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So this should be bad for the likes of Boeing, Northrop Grumman, etc. Yes? No? |
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08-02-2009, 04:39 PM
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So this should be bad for the likes of Boeing, Northrop Grumman, etc. Yes? No?
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I don't think Boeing needs any more bad news. |
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08-02-2009, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by jkratze1
So this should be bad for the likes of Boeing, Northrop Grumman, etc. Yes? No?
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Largely irrelevant to Boeing and Northrup-Grumman - the draw-down in government contractors is going to be for support contractors (SETAs, etc.). The government will still be hiring prime contractors like Boeing and Northrop-Grumman for the same work they have usually done.
The main bad news for the prime contractors has been cancellation (or possible cancellation) and/or reduction of specific programs like KEI and GMD. |
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08-03-2009, 09:25 AM
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OK, OK, now I realized that I am a contractor but earning GS salary.  |
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08-03-2009, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by HB2HSV
A GS 9 in Huntsville area starts at $47,280 a year.
An entry level engineer at Boeing starts at $67,000 a year.
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Whoa, careful. You might want to check your facts first next time.
GS-7 is entry level (for engineers). ~$45K/year in Huntsville.
GS-9 requires at least 1 year of GS-7 or higher experience (plus maybe a few other things, can't recall ATM), or Masters degree (or 2 years worth). Low-mid $60K range in Huntsville.
Starting salaries for private sector are comparable. If they are any higher, the benefits of government employment could make up for it. I highly doubt an entry level engineer can make $67K, FRESH out of school (unless they've had an extensive co-op opportunity and a near perfect GPA--even then I'd highly doubt it). Just so you know where I'm coming from--I have only been out of school for a few months, and I'm working as an engineer. Some of my friends who have been finished with school for several years (some under 5, some over 5 are starting to break into that range) don't even make $67K/year at Boeing/SAIC and other smaller companies etc, and many of them had spectacular GPAs and co-op experience (yes, engineers, some software, some electrical, some mechanical, some chemical). Chem-E's and EE's make the most right out of school, but the most they can hope for is low-mid $50K's. And in this economic climate, the chances of that may be slim...
So if anything, the salaries are comparable. And not as high as some of you speculate...
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08-04-2009, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by shaken8
Whoa, careful. You might want to check your facts first next time.
GS-7 is entry level (for engineers). ~$45K/year in Huntsville.
GS-9 requires at least 1 year of GS-7 or higher experience (plus maybe a few other things, can't recall ATM), or Masters degree (or 2 years worth). Low-mid $60K range in Huntsville...
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You may want to check your facts against the OPM GS payscale for Huntsville area
http://opm.gov/oca/09tables/pdf/HNT.pdf |
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08-04-2009, 10:34 AM
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Ok, all I know is that I was looking at engineering government job openings very recently (NASA especially), and the ones I saw had salaries listed as a minimum of $45K for GS-7 (meeting certain requirements, GPA or co-op/intern experience) and up to $62K (I'm rounding here) for GS-9 (if you were qualified). Do engineers/scientists start at higher "steps" than other gov employees?
Even so, GS-7 is entry level, not GS-9, and even at the lowest "step" of GS-7, it's nearly $40k. I would assume this to be either non-technical degrees, or maybe lower GPA or something. I don't imagine they would do much better in the private sector is that's the case. Again, just speculation... but that's what makes logical sense to me. |
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08-04-2009, 11:49 AM
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So, is Sr. Engineer GS 14?
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08-04-2009, 12:30 PM
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