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They had a similar situation a few years ago with another car. They shifted the pedals over a bit to accommodate the transmission design or something. People confused the gas with the brake due to it's position on the floor. People would jamming there foot all the way to the floor on the gas thinking it was the brake. They claimed to have runaway cars, insisting the were hitting the brakes, not the gas. But when the cars "black box" was checked, it indicated the gas was pressed, never the brake. I'm wagering it's the same in this case. She thought she was pushing the brakes when in fact it was the Gas.
As for the car ignition button not shutting off, people don't know know what 6 seconds are when they are not stressed. I used to work in IT support and we would tell people to power off there computer and wait 5 seconds before powering it back on, but they rarely waited more than 2 and insisted they waited the 5 seconds. We have to tell them, to turn off the computer, and count one one thousand, two one thousand, etc, then turn it back on.
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Another lawsuit in the making. She has enough brains and calmness to make 2 phone calls but not enough brains to shift to neutral? BS.. Mark my words, she will attempt a lawsuit to Kia. No brake lights, no neutral.. and the car stops itself.. BS.. I hope that Kia has a black box to prove she is lying
Kia will just ask the police to pull the black box data off the car, it will show she was pressing the gas the whole time. Case dismissed.
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They had a similar situation a few years ago with another car. They shifted the pedals over a bit to accommodate the transmission design or something. People confused the gas with the brake due to it's position on the floor. People would jamming there foot all the way to the floor on the gas thinking it was the brake. They claimed to have runaway cars, insisting the were hitting the brakes, not the gas. But when the cars "black box" was checked, it indicated the gas was pressed, never the brake. I'm wagering it's the same in this case. She thought she was pushing the brakes when in fact it was the Gas.
That was an Audi model from the '80s that you are referring to.
And, yes, the placement of the gas and brake pedals was a bit "off" on those cars.
The "victims" all told some variation of...the harder I pressed the brake, the faster the car went, which was because these doofuses were actually flooring the gas pedal.
Whether it was this exact situation or not, I am convinced that the Kia Sorento situation is a case of driver error/incompetence.
Yeah this is TOTAL BS.. Just finding a way to get a lawsuit started!
So the brakes failed, gearbox failed and the accelerator got stuck? Hahaaaaa yeah right..
So this women can hold a phone in one hand, while she goes down to pull the pedal and still manages to drive like that? Boy she might as well be a race car driver..
When will car companies put in an "off" button? Seems like that's simpler than trying to teach everyone to hold the button for 6 seconds. They could put it behind some glass that says, "break only in case of emergency".
When will car companies put in an "off" button? Seems like that's simpler than trying to teach everyone to hold the button for 6 seconds. They could put it behind some glass that says, "break only in case of emergency".
Which of course will lead to tales of vehicles running into houses, walls, parking garages, whatever as the befuddled/drunk/distracted drivers wail "Isn't is supposed to stop right away"
Kia will just ask the police to pull the black box data off the car, it will show she was pressing the gas the whole time. Case dismissed.
QFT.
But I have heard that cars do have lockouts to prevent you from going to neutral while accelerating. As well we know the push button deal, where manufacturers make it so you have to hold it for it to cutoff the ignition. I am sure a user is used to just hitting it once like they do every day. Granted their fault to know their own car.
But I have heard that cars do have lockouts to prevent you from going to neutral while accelerating. As well we know the push button deal, where manufacturers make it so you have to hold it for it to cutoff the ignition. I am sure a user is used to just hitting it once like they do every day. Granted their fault to know their own car.
A commenter on the Autoblog story mentioned that he has this exact vehicle and verified that the ECU cuts power when the throttle and brake pedal is depressed at the same time. If the vehicle is accelerating by itself then the brake pedal would cut spark/ignition. For this story to be true you would need a series of unlikely errors to occur. The throttle would have to fail (or get stuck under a rug), the safe guard to cut ignition would have to fail at the same time and the brake lights would also have to fail. I'm not saying it's impossible but the chances are more than slim.
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I don't know anything about this car.
But I have heard that cars do have lockouts to prevent you from going to neutral while accelerating. As well we know the push button deal, where manufacturers make it so you have to hold it for it to cutoff the ignition. I am sure a user is used to just hitting it once like they do every day. Granted their fault to know their own car.
I don't know of any vehicle that locks out the brakes under acceleration.
I don't know of any vehicle that locks out the brakes under acceleration.
"...have lockouts to prevent you from going to neutral while accelerating."
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