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I'm personally a big fan of that design. The previous Sonata looked way too pedestrian, and there were too many complaints about the rear resembling a Gen 7 Accord. Seems like now the Sonata is coming into its own. To me, it's almost on par with the Mazda 6 in terms of aggressive look. There needs to be a coupe version!!!
Obviously it's based on the Genesis platform and RWD...but I think the Genesis Coupe visually resembles the new Sonata(or vice versa) more so than it does the Genesis Sedan that it's linked to:
Remember these are front wheel drive cars also; too many horses and you get wicked torque steer. The previous revisions of the V6 Altima were literally undriveable when opening up the throttle because of this issue. Same problem with the Maxima.
I don;t see a problem as my wifes toyota has like 220 hp and is smooth as a cat.The oen thiong i have heard negative is getting that warrnty mad egood at their dealers and even when going to the company. know several who got rid of them for that reason as a warranty is only as good as the company really.
I don;t see a problem as my wifes toyota has like 220 hp and is smooth as a cat.
Torque steer isn't an issue if that power is never put to use. HP doesn't come into play until the engine is well past 4k rpm. Floor it, and you'll realize why many folks deride "high performance" in FWD cars.
Yeah, but American consumers keep demanding more horses, and that's what manufacturers provide.
The Nissan Stanza in the early 90's had 138 hp, which became 150 in the Altima, then 155, then 175, and now it offers a 245 horsepower six.
So Nissan basically stuffed a V6 from a full sized car (the Maxima) into a compact/midsize and has JUST NOW figured out how to deal with the torque steer!
In the rest of the industrialized world, cars are recognized as a huge waste of resources, and they rely on public transportation for the most part, and buy small cars if they must because of much higher gas charges.
I wish we did the same: much less sprawl, less wasted gas, much shorter commutes, but we like everything big. It's really pathetic when you think about it. The excess, that is.
You know, it's really laughable when people complain about their commute, or rude drivers, or whatever.
The tale of the construction worker:
A construction worker would complain every lunch break: "I hate peanut butter and jelly sandwiches!"
His co-workers finally asked: "why don't you just ask your old lady to make you another sandwich?"
The worker replied: "what are you talking about? I make my own sandwiches!"
Our problems are really of our own making, so it's really ridiculous to complain about them when we have no intention of changing the structure of transportation which is at the very root.
Dude this forum is primarily for people who LIKE cars and enjoy driving them. If you want to discuss public transportation or sprawl you're better off in the "greenie" forum.
There's a turbo version in the pipeline, with output estimates in the 260HP range. That'll take care of those wanting V6 power, plus it will probably have more torque than the outgoing V6. You might still consider this going "backwards" but it's part of a trend made necessary by increasingly stringent emissions and fuel economy regulations. Everyone from Ford and GM on up to BMW is downsizing engines and making up most of the power difference with turbocharging, as the advent of direct injection gasoline engines has finally allowed turbocharging without significant loss in fuel economy.
American car companies don't have a very good reputation building turbocharged 4cyl engines, every one I can think of has been unreliable (especially in hotter areas). If they start bringing too many of these turbos out at once they will end up having huge quality problems I'm afraid.
American car companies don't have a very good reputation building turbocharged 4cyl engines, every one I can think of has been unreliable (especially in hotter areas).
It's not a matter of which company, but the design ... older turbochargers were strictly oil cooled, so if you didn't give it a chance to spin down before shutting down, they would literally cook themselves in crappy dino juice. They died in American cars, they died in Japanese cars, they died in European cars.
With the advent of water cooled turbos in the late 80's (which was about when the big 3 ceased offering them), this minimized the effect. Likewise, low pressure turbos that are more atypical these days aren't stressed as much either.
My Volvo is turbocharged ... 221k miles on the factory Garrett T25, and the only reason why I replaced it was to get a bigger one. I sold to a guy who added it to his normally aspirated, and though he's since grenaded the stock transmission, the turbo is still doing fine.
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I sold to a guy who added it to his normally aspirated, and though he's since grenaded the stock transmission, the turbo is still doing fine.
