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Old 02-15-2008, 09:30 AM
Location: Southeast Idaho
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Originally Posted by Mtn. States Resident View Post
I was just wondering if anyone here knew about the new coffe shop on Hitt Road? I can't think of the name. Clearly, someone knew where Starbucks was scouting (and maybe they still will build there), but someone else has built another coffee shop in Idaho Falls.

For any who have read this thread to this point, I hope the new coffee house will feature some of our native Idaho coffee beans being produced in Boise.

Just as an FYI - I read that Java Express, the Idaho Falls company has built it's first drivethrough in Twin Falls.

Please share anything you know about this new coffee shop. I somehow seem to have missed it.



Hmm, going to have to check that out when I get home. Unfortunately I'm stuck in Fresno right now
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Old 02-24-2008, 05:31 PM
Location: Missouri
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I love my coffee ALOT but I can buy a whole container of ground coffee for what I would pay for 1 cup from Starbucks... My daughter on the other hand would pay her last $5.oo and swear it was the best thing she's ever had...
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Old 02-27-2008, 06:12 PM
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I buy and grind my own beans from Blackbear Coffee in New Hampshire. It's a small micro-roaster that ships FRESH beans anywhere (I like the Guatemalan). I much prefer it to Starbucks super dark roasting methods. I still buy brewed coffee from Starbuck's shops because they have the best overall quality control of any coffee shops I've been to.
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Old 02-28-2008, 04:04 PM
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hello i'm new to this forum so pardon me if im doing something wrong. i have been trying to get some feed back with coeur d'alene vs idaho falls, not much luck.. i have been to idaho falls and i remember i really liked it there. now im in north carolina and despise it here. i have been wanting to get back to the west almost the day i came here. i transferred with tgi fridays which there is now one in IF. im a single mom have family there and need info on the schools in IF vs CDA. also on the job market, as managing a restaurant has taken a huge toll on my family I'm now divorced with two young children. dad no longer in picture. im baptist{non- denominational} we are affialiated with the baptist church. morales are important to me a strong community helps this. coeur d'alene has alot of infuence of spokane i imangine. crime high ect...any info would be great. thank you for your time.
This is a get to share some similar observations about St. George, UT and our respective comments.

I use to work about 1 month/year in St. George for about 5 years, so I totally understand what your thinking about St. George. Maybe we should PM on that one, as it wasn't my favorite place, but probably for reasons not really well known.

Take some time to read about Idaho Falls in the various posts. It is an interesting city in that it has elements of the Utah connection (and I mean businesses and traditions, and certainly LDS buildings and culture for SOME residents. Additionally, many in the area, like in St. George, moved to Idaho Falls with a work ethic early pioneers had etc.). Interestingly, in talking to residents who are LDS and those who are not, that strong work ethic is one factor many identify as a common theme in Idaho Falls to natives (and we hope new residents too).

What you may find interesting, is Idaho Falls is also greatly influenced by Seattle, and the Northwest in general. Idaho Falls is in the Seattle region for many federal government regional offices. Additionally, because the state of Idaho is part of the WWAMI agreement with the University of Washington Medical School in Seattle, a greater number of physicians and other medical professionals, have lived in Seattle for many years. Consequently, they bring their tastes for Seattle food, coffee, clothing and other parts of life in Seattle back with them when they return to Idaho Falls.

Some say the name Nordstrom is floating around for either a store in the high end Snake River Landing development (Snake River Landing) or perhaps "A Rack" in the new outlet mall/ and retail complex to be built in Idaho Falls (www.http://www.sunnysidecrossroads.com/index2.html). Many speculate this is where Costco will be built. For many years The Bon (or Bon Marche for those of us who go back that far) was a very dominant store in Idaho Falls. Shopping at The Bon in Seattle is always worked in my schedule whenever possible.

Another example of the Seattle - Idaho Falls connection, is Horizon Airlines, flies to Idaho Falls as the ONLY city in eastern/southeastern ID. And on those flights are often fresh fish caught from the shores in the Northwest. So restaurants similar to some in Seattle and more Sushi restaurants continue to enter the local cuisine scene. But, I sure wish we could get an Ivar's with the very famous clams (a copy of the restaurant on Route 99) in Idaho Falls. I haven't liked the other Ivar's close the UW and the lake as well as the one by the ferries on 99.

We still need a Costco in Idaho Falls and the demand is increasing. We have been waiting and waiting while all the new ones are built in UT so Costco can finally start building in eastern ID. If you happen to have connections, please pass along the word not everyone wants to shop at Sam's Club, the 2 Super Wal-Marts, etc. and are driving to UT cities, Twin Falls or sometimes Bozeman to shop at the Costco stores in those cities. I know NAI has been working hard to get Costco in Idaho Falls. Actually, I know it's just a matter of time as I've already heard of 3 different locations being considered.

Back to transporation, Horizon's description of Idaho Falls is interesting, if you have a chance to read about it on their website. And Horizon continues to work getting direct flights from Seattle to Idaho Falls and vice versa, a flight the airlines has worked on for years.

About a month ago Horizon broke "the rules" routing most flights in ID through Boise, or occasionally Spokane, and started a new route flying 64 seater planes from Seattle to Bozeman, MT and then to Idaho Falls, allowing passengers access to Yellowstone National Park in a unique way.

For those wishing to discover YNP and MT - they deplane in Bozeman. For passengers/visitors wishing to discover the southern part of YNP and perhaps the Tetons and Jackson Hole as well, they now have that option with this new Horizon flight. And the business travel from Idaho Falls to Seattle has always been busy, but may increase even more with this flight. This allows those needing to travel to Seattle the opportunity of flying without having to stop in Boise or Spokane. Someone thought out of the box designing this flight, and I believe it will be successful. IMHO - someone or a team at Horizon made an excellent decision creating this eastern ID, southern MT flight

So back to coffee and Seattle, one thing that surprises many who visit Idaho Falls is when the FAST FOOD restaurants, McDonald's I believe is one, SERVE SEATTLE's Best for their brand of coffee. I don't recall that in all cities.

I've spent a lot of time in Seattle, so I laughed about some of your Starbucks comments. I'm also a tad frustrated that it is always Starbucks building more coffee shops everywhere and not Seattle's Best or Tully's. However, Tully's is starting to build more, the last I knew. But, I don't know that Tully's in any capacity has made it to consumers in Idaho Falls.

Feel free to send me a PM any time, I suspect we have a lot of thoughts that aren't too different, given where we've each lived sometime during our lives.

And PLEASE, when you can, do follow our Idaho Falls threads. You may see trends of locals that seem much more similar to those in Seattle than those in St. George.

Just to be fair, I believe the comment, YOU-CANT-EAT-SCENERY made, "Well, it might also depend on how many Californians are moving to IF. For some reason Californinas are addicted to $5 coffees I'm not...don't even drink coffee," has to be considered when anyone things about St. George. I'm a little amused when I read the complaints about Californians moving to Idaho when St. George in particular, and UT in general, have had California residents moving there, in massive numbers, for about 20 years.

IMHO, residents of Idaho have a good reason to be concerned about the retired or those from California moving to Idaho and driving the housing and tax prices upward. Smart local government can help address some of the problems and hopefully leaders call St. George City Leaders frequently. I saw the two tier or "two class" life styles rapidly emerge in St. George. I saw the service sector caring for the needs of those who had relocated from CA. Recently, I talked to a college grad who had moved back to SLC as he couldn't obtain a job that paid over $6.00/hr. in St. George.

So sometimes I think we in Idaho are quite behind understanding how much a community can totally be changed by the influx of a large population from another state.

I hope to hear from you in the future, and I enjoyed your comments here. I do hope you'll plan a visit to Idaho Falls when you can and potentially not only stop for coffee at Starbucks, but try some of the local coffee shops as well, like the Villa Coffeehouse (The Villa Coffeehouse).

Interestingly enough, two of the major developers in town, the Walker Brothers DBA as McNeil Development, who have redeveloped this river front property and will finish their development with a couple more buildings, then a 5 story Marriott Residence Inn as well as a 13 story Condo Tower on the Snake River (Taylor Crossing on the River) are indeed the same McNeil Development who purchased all the land in Washington, UT for about 4,000 homes.

And, the CEO of Ball Ventures, who is building Snake River Landing, also has developed commercial and residential areas in St. George. Apparently, the new Hilton Garden Inn, in Idaho Falls, is suppose to be identical to the one in St. George, except BV made it one floor less. Probably, that has to do with the many other hotels BV's own in Idaho Falls, but who knows. Similar in so many ways, these two major development companies are entirely different in how they dispense information. McNeil gets information out as soon as possible while BV is very, very guarded about what they have planned. Good thing I know a few people connected with BV or I wouldn't know much about what is planned for Idaho Falls.

Sorry this has wandered to so many subjects, but I don't feel they are off topic. Actually, what I was trying to do is connect some dots of how Idaho Falls is in many ways a "crossroad" of Seattle and Northwestern ideas and Salt Lake City and UT ideas. Additionally, I didn't know if many really knew that two successful developers in Idaho Falls are successful developers in St. George too.

Those who have relocated from Seattle have influenced life in Idaho Falls as well as Boise and other areas. And some ideas about Idaho Falls is, or isn't, may or may be outdated and ready for a "refresher." Visiting Idaho Falls and finding out how Coldwell Banker Commercial Division from SLC working with BV's and others developers like Smith-Hawkins continues to ensure favorite UT stores are being expanded more and more to Idaho Falls. Yet, Seattle-based The Bon had a 2-3 story building downtown and was the closest store residents from UT could shop in a large Bon Marche, since UT didn't have the chain. That was until The Bon built 2 stores in UT - doing well in Cache Valley (Logan) but failing near Hill AFB in the Layton Hills Mall.

I hope you'll plan a trip to see what Idaho Falls has become and look at the city through the eyes of a former Seattle resident. Then as an "expert coffee drinker and judge," you can let us know what you think of local coffee drive throughs and sit down coffee shops. Don't view it as ignorance on your part, Rocco; instead, view this as an opportunity to learn about how much Idaho Falls has been influenced by residents relocating from from many locations.

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