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Old 02-18-2017, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Idaho Falls
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A slightly different tune at this month's RDA meeting. Due to time constraints and other obstacles, The Housing Company will still do the redevelopment of the Bonneville hotel. To apply for the financing & tax credits and such they now have to wait til August. One of their interested commercial tenants is a Brazilian steakhouse. Its getting exciting to see what might go into either downtown development.
In Pail Menser's 12/20/11 Bizmojo Idaho blog there was a discussion of Tucano's Brazilian Grill. It stated at that time that they will be coming here. From a strategic and logistic standpoint, it makes sense, as they are already in SLC and Boise. We are right in position for their expansion. Maybe that time has finally come. I would love to see it happen. Rodizio Grill also has locations in UT, AZ, and CO, among other states. Idaho is a great place for a restaurant that caters to carnivores. I have seen my share of cutsie, faddie, artistically presented food in restaurants that have not stayed around very long. Good food, well prepared, fresh and recognizable, served in healthy portions will never go out of style.
I also recall some discussion of a high end seafood restaurant chain based in Boise that would like to open here. It may have been mentioned in conjunction with The Broadway ( Savings Center / Kelsch property ). That would make me very happy too !
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Old 02-18-2017, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Idaho Falls
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The 15 United States statistical areas and 44 counties of the State of Idaho

Combined Statistical Area 2010 Census Core Based Statistical Area 2010 Census County 2010 Census
none Boise City-Nampa, ID MSA 616,561 Ada County, Idaho 392,365
Canyon County, Idaho 188,923
Gem County, Idaho 16,719
Owyhee County, Idaho 11,526
Boise County, Idaho 7,028
Idaho Falls-Blackfoot, ID CSA 175,981 Idaho Falls, ID MSA 130,374 Bonneville County, Idaho 104,234
Jefferson County, Idaho 26,140
Blackfoot, ID μSA 45,607 Bingham County, Idaho 45,607
none Coeur d'Alene, ID MSA 138,494 Kootenai County, Idaho 138,494
Twin Falls, ID μSA 99,604 Twin Falls County, Idaho 77,230
Jerome County, Idaho 22,374
Pocatello, ID MSA 82,839 Bannock County, Idaho 82,839
Rexburg, ID μSA 50,778 Madison County, Idaho 37,536
Fremont County, Idaho 13,242
Burley, ID μSA 43,021 Cassia County, Idaho 22,952
Minidoka County, Idaho 20,069
Lewiston, ID-WA MSA 60,888
39,265 Nez Perce County, Idaho 39,265
Asotin County, Washington 21,623
Moscow, ID μSA 37,244 Latah County, Idaho 37,244
Mountain Home, ID μSA 27,038 Elmore County, Idaho 27,038
Ontario, OR-ID μSA 53,936
22,623 Malheur County, Oregon 31,313
Payette County, Idaho 22,623
Logan, UT-ID MSA 125,442
12,786 Cache County, Utah 112,656
Franklin County, Idaho 12,786
Jackson, WY-ID μSA 31,464
10,170 Teton County, Wyoming 21,294
Teton County, Idaho 10,170
none Bonner County, Idaho 40,877
Blaine County, Idaho 21,376
Idaho County, Idaho 16,267
Gooding County, Idaho 15,464
Shoshone County, Idaho 12,765
Boundary County, Idaho 10,972
Washington County, Idaho 10,198
Valley County, Idaho 9,862
Benewah County, Idaho 9,285
Clearwater County, Idaho 8,761
Lemhi County, Idaho 7,930
Power County, Idaho 7,817
Caribou County, Idaho 6,963
Bear Lake County, Idaho 5,986
Lincoln County, Idaho 5,208
Custer County, Idaho 4,368
Oneida County, Idaho 4,286
Adams County, Idaho 3,976
Lewis County, Idaho 3,821
Butte County, Idaho 2,891
Camas County, Idaho 1,117
Clark County, Idaho 982
State of Idaho 1,567,582

The information in this table is already 7 years old, and there has been some major growth in Southeast Idaho. Many residents here have no idea how large a consumer base Idaho Falls is. From the Idaho National Lab, our world class agriculture base, and a huge regional medical hub, the area continues to diversify and expand. It is plainly obvious that we are the second largest market in the state. We sit between the Boise and Salt Lake City MSAs, and offer so much to businesses looking to expand. The two major consideration viewed in an expansion are :
Does this area contain the population base that out company considers to meet the minimum standard to support our business, or will it be there soon ?
Is the area logistically reasonable for us... Near an Interstate highway,(or railroad or airport) close enough to our other locations,( or consumer base) reasonable tax base, low cost of power and utilities ?
When the 2020 census is completed, we will see an unprecedented period of growth and expansion. Here's to those forward thinking people and organizations who are already on board, and are proactively developing the infrastructure to support the wave of growth that is about to hit.
I have loaded this table to open some eyes, and open a dialog.
Your thoughts ?
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Old 02-19-2017, 04:49 PM
 
Location: WA Desert, Seattle native
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The largest Idaho MSA's by population growth 2010-2015: (MSA = Metropolitan Statistical Area, CSA = Combined Statistical Area)

Boise MSA: 616,561 (2010), 676,909 (2015), +9.79% gain
Boise CSA: (Includes Canyon County and others) 697,539 (2010), 756,061 (2015) +8.39% gain

Couer d'Alene MSA: 138,494 (2010), 150,346 (2015) +8.56% gain

Idaho Falls MSA: 133,265 (2010), 139,747 (2015) +4.86 gain
Idaho Falls CSA: (Includes Bingham County) 187,000 estimate 2015

Twin Falls (listed as a Micropolitan area) 99,604 (2010), 105,000 estimate (2015)

Pocatello MSA: 82,839 (2010), 83,744 (2015) +1.09% gain

Comment: Boise and Couer d'Alene are growing faster than Twin Falls, Idaho Falls, and Pocatello by percentage. Pocatello has one of the slowest growth rates of any of Idaho's larger metro areas. I would be interested in why that is...

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Old 02-19-2017, 06:50 PM
 
Location: Idaho Falls
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The 2015 figures do not include the explosive growth in Ammon. Sand Creek Commons has made a big impact, and phase 2 will do the same. Jackson Hole Junction, all the new growth on Sunnyside, and the west side of Idaho Falls will increase population because of job growth.
As far as Pocatello's lack of growth, it was a topic of conversation I had with some friends last week. 2 main thoughts that were most often brought up were that Pocatello sits in a hole, surrounded by a landscape that makes growth more difficult, and that Pocatello has a more industrial feel, and the mining, railroad and related industries don't add steady growth. I don't know if ISU has grown or shrunk enrolment, but BYUI has shown continued growth year after year. The new community college in Idaho Falls, if approved, and the new event center when completed will just promote more growth.
I have spent many years working in both Idaho Falls and Pocatello, and actually commuted from IF to Poky daily for a couple of years to avoid having to live there. My personal opinion is that Pocatello has a "gritty" feel, like some other places I've lived, similar to Butte, Montana, or even Pittsburgh, PA. The quirky shops in Old Town Pocatello, the closed malls, and vacant property around town seem less conducive to growth than what you see in a more progressive downtown Idaho Falls, and the surrounding area there. Again, just my personal opinion, your mileage may vary.
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Old 02-19-2017, 07:34 PM
 
Location: WA Desert, Seattle native
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Well the 2015 numbers do include Ammon, etc. as they are part of the IF MSA, which includes areas outside of IF but still in Bonneville Co. Perhaps these latest developments will increase the stats as we get closer to the 2020 census.

I do tend to agree with you about Pocatello. I lived in both cities and am somewhat divided on which I preferred. I liked that Poky is more "quirky" than IF, and Pocatello is more scenic in the sense of being in a valley between mountains, but IF certainly has more retail/restaurant opportunities.

IF has the major airport, or shall I say, the "largest" airport in the region, but Poky is closer to the nearest big city, Salt Lake.

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Old 02-19-2017, 09:09 PM
 
Location: Idaho Falls
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Well the 2015 numbers do include Ammon, etc. as they are part of the IF MSA, which includes areas outside of IF but still in Bonneville Co. Perhaps these latest developments will increase the stats as we get closer to the 2020 census.

I do tend to agree with you about Pocatello. I lived in both cities and am somewhat divided on which I preferred. I liked that Poky is more "quirky" than IF, and Pocatello is more scenic in the sense of being in a valley between mountains, but IF certainly has more retail/restaurant opportunities.
You are correct that the 2015 numbers do include Ammon, of course, as you mention, but my point was simply that the big boom in Ammon had not occurred when the 2015 numbers were collected and published.

I completely agree with you, all the development there will increase the stats as time goes on. Places like Broulims, Rita's, Hobby Lobby, Rizzo's, Kneaders, the Fuji Grill, Cabelas, the multitude of banks and new medical offices on Hitt, and the other new business in that area are just still too new. Same goes for all the new businesses on the Idaho Falls side of the street, Panera Bread, the new Indian, Vietnamese, and other restaurants. If Costco finally chooses a site, it will spur satellite growth all around it. I understand they have options on 3 different parcels of land, ( at least 1 in that general area ) and are keeping the locations undisclosed, so property prices don't soar before they can make any kind of decision.

There are places we like to visit in Pocatello, and some restaurants and shopping opportunities there that are not available in Idaho Falls, and we head down there for a day trip occasionally. There are also some annual events we try to get to every year, and enjoy our visits there, but still prefer living in Idaho Falls.

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Old 02-20-2017, 05:47 AM
 
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I've kept an eye on the local real estate market but not so much comparatively to other Idaho cities. All the way up to 2015 the market was just "so so". In 2016, the lab and other employers filled over 600 positions locally. Any realtor would agree that this area saw more activity in 2016 than any other years passed. Real estate and commercial development skyrocketed even in comparison to 2007. There are several projects planned that would either sustain the growth we had last year or even increase it. Yes the events center is a big one as is the community college effort. The proposed new IFHS as well as D93s high school currently under construction adds up too. It sounds like INL has no plans to slow down its expansion. Two new office buildings in town are proposed and for the Navy to spend billions on their proposed facility would really boost those numbers. Look up the potential economic impact of NuScale's SMRs they want to build at the site. It's perhaps more significant than all the others mentioned. I don't know if things are happening like this in CDA or Boise (of course each would have its own economic kickers similar to the expansion of the FBI in Pocatello). I expect the years from 2016 to 2020 to reflect more of East Idaho's growth in the next census

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Old 02-20-2017, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Idaho Falls
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Had to go to Walmart this morning, so took a little drive up the street from there. The new C.A.L. Ranch flagship store/ headquarters is HUGE ! Looks like the work is going fast, especially for this time of the year.
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Old 02-20-2017, 03:12 PM
 
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In Pail Menser's 12/20/11 Bizmojo Idaho blog there was a discussion of Tucano's Brazilian Grill. It stated at that time that they will be coming here. From a strategic and logistic standpoint, it makes sense, as they are already in SLC and Boise. We are right in position for their expansion. Maybe that time has finally come. I would love to see it happen. Rodizio Grill also has locations in UT, AZ, and CO, among other states. Idaho is a great place for a restaurant that caters to carnivores. I have seen my share of cutsie, faddie, artistically presented food in restaurants that have not stayed around very long. Good food, well prepared, fresh and recognizable, served in healthy portions will never go out of style.
I also recall some discussion of a high end seafood restaurant chain based in Boise that would like to open here. It may have been mentioned in conjunction with The Broadway ( Savings Center / Kelsch property ). That would make me very happy too !
Could be Lucky Fins. They are headquartered in the Treasure Valley and their first location is in Meridian, a second in downtown Boise and three locations in Colorado.


Here's their website:
Home

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Old 02-20-2017, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Idaho Falls
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Could be Lucky Fins. They are headquartered in the Treasure Valley and their first location is in Meridian, a second in downtown Boise and three locations in Colorado.


Here's their website:
Home
Thanks for sharing the thought, Syringaloid.

Wow, great looking menu ! I could see myself there on a regular basis. I really enjoyed reading the House Rules at the bottom of the page. Sounds like a great place, as does the Smokin Fins version.
Here's hoping......
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