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Old 03-26-2009, 10:26 PM
 
Location: Emmett Idaho
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If I was a retired LA cop I would want to move to SP too.
It puts that much more distance between my family and the punks of L.A.
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Old 03-27-2009, 04:34 PM
 
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I am a retired cop from The City San Bernardino, CA, and plan to move to Sandpoint as soon as my house sells. This has been the most interesting forum to date. Sage is right about gun control. All gun control does is restrict you the citizen from obtaining a firearm, whereas Mr. BAD GUY can get one anywhere.

I am so tired of talking to people who just don't understand the principal of self defense in this state. I think the problem is because they have never been victimized. Once you have been a victim of a crime your perspective on life changes. You feel vulnerable for the first time in your life and realize that self protection is not such a bad idea.

During my 26 years as an Officer and Detective I have observed several incidents that could have been prevented if the victim had owned a gun. However with gun ownership comes responsibilty. If you do not know how to properly use the firearm, and leave it on the table, where a child can pick it up. You don't need to own a gun because you are an irresponsible knucklehead.

Taking a safety course is a great idea and promotes common sense. Owning a gun safe is another good idea, so Joe the Burglar can't help himself to your Dan Wesson or Bushmaster firearm (or custom made knife by Rinaldi). Just my two cents worth of opintion take it or leave it.
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Old 03-27-2009, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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I dunno, but I think you should look to the Free Peoples Democratic Republic of Kalifornia if you don't like liberal gun laws. The Comrades of the Peoples Central Committee are making sure that law-abiding but wrong thinking anti socialist counter revolutionary forces in Kalifornia are losing their rights to gun ownership and self defense. It is rumored that re-education camps will soon be legislated into existence, so that the criminally insane who continue to insist on gun ownership and self defense can finally be helped through a combination of intensive public project labor and therapy.
I see you've been snooping in Ron Dellums' email again.
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Old 03-28-2009, 01:46 AM
 
Location: FINALLY in N. Idaho
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I am a retired cop from The City San Bernardino, CA, and plan to move to Sandpoint as soon as my house sells. This has been the most interesting forum to date. Sage is right about gun control. All gun control does is restrict you the citizen from obtaining a firearm, whereas Mr. BAD GUY can get one anywhere.

I am so tired of talking to people who just don't understand the principal of self defense in this state. I think the problem is because they have never been victimized. Once you have been a victim of a crime your perspective on life changes. You feel vulnerable for the first time in your life and realize that self protection is not such a bad idea.

During my 26 years as an Officer and Detective I have observed several incidents that could have been prevented if the victim had owned a gun. However with gun ownership comes responsibilty. If you do not know how to properly use the firearm, and leave it on the table, where a child can pick it up. You don't need to own a gun because you are an irresponsible knucklehead.

Taking a safety course is a great idea and promotes common sense. Owning a gun safe is another good idea, so Joe the Burglar can't help himself to your Dan Wesson or Bushmaster firearm (or custom made knife by Rinaldi). Just my two cents worth of opintion take it or leave it.
Doing what I do I tend to meet alot of Cops.. They all sound the same way when it comes to gun control. They are against it just like Fisherman 100 and Sage. The elected Cops you see on TV often times sound quite different though.. Cops also realize they wont always be cops, and eventually will be regular Joe's like us. How screwed would it be for them to not be able to defend thier families from criminals they spent thier whole careers putting in jail..?

One of my main reasons for moving to Idaho are the very "Liberal" gun laws. I can see a day in the not too distant future where Californians will be completely disarmed and vulnerable in very dangerous times. I wish it wasnt the case but thats where I see things heading.
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Old 03-28-2009, 07:30 AM
 
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I am a retired cop from The City San Bernardino, CA, and plan to move to Sandpoint as soon as my house sells. This has been the most interesting forum to date. Sage is right about gun control. All gun control does is restrict you the citizen from obtaining a firearm, whereas Mr. BAD GUY can get one anywhere.

I am so tired of talking to people who just don't understand the principal of self defense in this state. I think the problem is because they have never been victimized. Once you have been a victim of a crime your perspective on life changes. You feel vulnerable for the first time in your life and realize that self protection is not such a bad idea.

During my 26 years as an Officer and Detective I have observed several incidents that could have been prevented if the victim had owned a gun. However with gun ownership comes responsibilty. If you do not know how to properly use the firearm, and leave it on the table, where a child can pick it up. You don't need to own a gun because you are an irresponsible knucklehead.

Taking a safety course is a great idea and promotes common sense. Owning a gun safe is another good idea, so Joe the Burglar can't help himself to your Dan Wesson or Bushmaster firearm (or custom made knife by Rinaldi). Just my two cents worth of opintion take it or leave it.
Great post. I agree about the victim thing but also think it has to do with if you were raised around them as well.I can sort of see why someone would be so fearful if their only exposure was tv & crime.However I dont understand someone not personally educating themselves on something before making judgments and descisions.
I would also add around here guns are not just protection from people but possible wildlife as well.

Personally I think some type of gun saftey would be a good idea (for kids as well).Even if you dont plan on having one your neighbor might & criminals are someones neighbor as well.

When we were little my dad taught us about guns,how they worked,how to clean one and that a gun is always loaded even if its not loaded & then he took a shotgun and a watermelon and showed us what a gun could do.
While my dad kept his locked up, if one were laying around at someone else's house, I would not have dared touch it,or let a friend touch it,I would have left & told my parents.
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Old 03-28-2009, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Coeur d'Alene Idaho
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If you are one of those people who want to live where no one can carry a gun like Wash DC then go live there and enjoy the ridiculous high crime rate that goes with it. In Idaho you don't pull a gun unless you expect s few others to pull there gun out. We have a well armed population and it is not uncommon to see several trucks driving around with rifles in the gun racks and you can bet half of the vehicles have a pistol in the cab of the truck somewhere so I wouldnt suggest trying to car jack someone. The good news most of the people will use this firearm to defend not only themselves but you also if the situation arises so you can be thankful you have help out there you just may not realize it yet.
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Old 03-28-2009, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Coeur d'Alene Idaho
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Wow I did not realize how old the original question on this post was. Any follow up reports? Did you end up moving to Idaho??
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Old 03-28-2009, 02:43 PM
 
Location: naples, idaho
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I am completely in favor of private gun ownership. The more guns in the hands of law abiding citizens the better. My thought is that gun safety should be taught in school just like sex ed. Some kids who come across firearms don't know what to do, but thet know how to use a condom. Just doesn't make sense to me.
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Old 03-28-2009, 03:35 PM
 
Location: FINALLY in N. Idaho
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I am completely in favor of private gun ownership. The more guns in the hands of law abiding citizens the better. My thought is that gun safety should be taught in school just like sex ed. Some kids who come across firearms don't know what to do, but thet know how to use a condom. Just doesn't make sense to me.
Absolutely!!.. I taught my son at a very early age about gun safety. He has been exposed to shooting and firearms all his life. If I had a gun out to be cleaned or whatever and he would see it, to him it was like a socket wrench, a common tool, BUT a tool to be respected. There was never any mystery about them, and he fully knew what they were capable of doing good AND bad.. When he was very young it wasnt uncommon for him to lecture adult shooters at the range about "muzzle sweeping" him or not clearing thier firearm after shooting. There were times I would ask if he wanted to go to the range and shoot, and many times he would decline in favor of doing something else. Like I said to him it just wasnt a big deal.
Its always the kids who have never been allowed to learn gun safety that get in trouble and have the horrible accidents.. There are the exceptions of course, but there are WAY more kids killed in swimming pool accidents every year than there are in gun accidents..
He's now almost 19, and has never been in any kind of trouble. He has played violent video games, he has watched violent movies, he listens to popular music. Responsibly owning guns with children in the house is not a problem with education..

Sorry if I keep sidtracking threads..
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Old 03-28-2009, 06:11 PM
 
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I am completely in favor of private gun ownership. The more guns in the hands of law abiding citizens the better. My thought is that gun safety should be taught in school just like sex ed. Some kids who come across firearms don't know what to do, but thet know how to use a condom. Just doesn't make sense to me.
They don't teach sex ed in our part of Idaho! I've taken it upon myself to teach my kids how to use guns and condoms, but to try to stay out of situations where they will need either!
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