Heres another kallifornian goin to idaho (Sandpoint: transplants, income, jobs)

[CafeDelSol]

Originally Posted by mustangjoey

But, I do see the other things that you mention, so I can see your point. The funny thing is that it seems to be mostly foreigners that are that way. I don't consider myself a racist, but if I hold the door open for 10 people of different races, Asians will tend to just walk through and not say anything at all eight times out of ten. Sorry if that sounds like a generalization, but it's actually my experience.

Many Asians tend to act that way everywhere. It's a cultural thing. In public areas there is no "host" to be polite to so it's a free for all and you get the rudeness, pushing, shoving, etc. They don't do it because they're jerks (usually), it's just their culture and they don't even think about it. Americans tend to react to that type of behavior as a personal affront.

[semiok45]

Wow, I have only three true peeves in the world and they are all concerning door etiquette! 1) When you walk through a door, look behind you and hold the door if someone else is coming in. Don’t just obliviously let it close on them. 2) If someone holds the door, thank them. Actually, you just have to smile and acknowledge. 3) When the elevator doors open, allow the people inside to exit before you rush in. If I weren’t so nice, I’d push all the buttons before I left.

[semiok45]

And yeah Racer, I feel you on the California thing. I've lived in So Cal all my life and for the last few years I feel like someone put a plastic bag over my head... I just need to get out. As a young person it's great - Beachy summers, big city nearby, center of universe feel, and everything looks like it does on TV which you think is cool. But once you grow up, if you ever do here, you realize other things - A house will break you if you can even get one, it's so crowded, there is too much crime, your kids have to grow up here and will have to learn Spanish to get by, and everything looks like it does on TV which is no longer cool. Things that should matter here don't, and vice versa.

I've been really down on Ca lately, and really am trying to be positive, but when you know, you just know.

[KittyToy]

Darn right, growing up in California is just plain awesome. BUT the the reality sets in, and you become more aware of your surroundings as you get older

You can't afford a place to live near the beach unless you're living with 3 other people

People are sometime rude


And yes I'll say it again...we suck at driving.

I'm getting outta here semiok45 it took me 25 years, but I am officially OVER California.

[California Carl]

Long live the debate! Let the fur fly!!!

[Asthedeer]

Originally Posted by RACER47

The people coming from ca. that you don’t welcome there won’t last anyway. If it’s not the slower pace life, or the new “winter” experience, surely that monthly car- wash bill to get all that icky dirt off their shinny new hummer will drive them out.

Anyway, the reason im here is to find out as much as possible about hayden and hayden lake property. If there is anyone here from that area, I would really like to talk to them. Im looking for any websites or books relative to that area. Any info would help.

Thanks, Tony~

You are so right about that lol, I am betting after this winter a lot will think about what they got themselves into. I have talked to many that are headed back to CA already. It was funny to see all the hummers out the second the snow started flying.

I grew up in Hayden Lake. Beautiful area! Are you looking to live on the hill overlooking the lake, be on the lake, or in town?

I just noticed you have Spirit Lake listed at the top as well but did'nt mention it in your post. Are you looking into SL as well? Beautiful area as well! but more rural and you would have to drive a ways for work and is also in a "snow belt" , (first hand experience lol).

[esselcue]

I hope LOTS of people leave Idaho so that there will be plenty of homes for me to choose from this time next year! In fact, I have a lovely home on an acre of horse property here in AZ they can buy if they want mild climates and dust

[cleosmom]

Originally Posted by esselcue

I hope LOTS of people leave Idaho so that there will be plenty of homes for me to choose from this time next year! In fact, I have a lovely home on an acre of horse property here in AZ they can buy if they want mild climates and dust

Slightly off topic here. I have one friend from AZ who visited another friend in OH and she complained that OH was too green Guessing she likes her dust.

[esselcue]

There are folks who really love the desert landscape. I live in the AZ mountains so it is more high desert, not quite as brown and yucky as down around Phoenix, but the dust is my nemesis in life. It's awful. I have tolerated it for 25 years now and I am ready for some greenery and "weather". I, too have a close friend who lives in Ohio (Dayton) and she finds the desert "interesting" but prefers her green cornfields.

[boi2socal]

I blame East Coasters for California rudeness! lol Many old timers will agree.

Actually, it seems there is some truth to this. I find it hard to believe how many East Coast people move here and think Los Angeles folk are TOO nice and they literally will say it disgusts them. Yes, I found this confusing coming from Idaho. I don't think people are really downright rude here...just more apathetic but certainly not TOO nice. On a larger scale California was settled just like most Western communities and most real Californians are just as nice as other Westerners.