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Old 12-20-2013, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Census Explorer

This interactive map shows the changes in income between the 1990 and 2011 census with the 2000 census in-between.
You can blow it up to the county level and even higher. Selecting the census district level will show the economic changes within a county.

There were some surprises. Kootenai county and Bonneville count are very similar in terms of overall income, but Kootenai has stayed ahead of the inflation, while Bonneville has not. Boneeville has lost a couple of thousand dollars in average inflation adjusted income while Kootenai has stayed a couple of thousand dollars ahead of inflation. Idaho Falls' prosperity has spread into surrounding counties, while Kootenai's has not.
Ada county, home of Boise, has done the best in the state by about ten thousand dollars. Blaine county, the wealthiest in the state, is still the wealthiest, but less so than in 1990.

Some counties have had major decreases in wealth. Madison, home of Rexburg, is one, even though Rexburg has tripled (almost quadrupled) in population since 1990. May of our counties have stayed about the same.

As interesting is the division of wealth in the big cities. The map blows up quite a lot, so it's possible to see the changes in NYC over the past 20 years. Manhattan was once much more economically diverse, but now it's apparent only rich people live there.

Some states have pockets of very poor folks; I looked over Ohio, and it's pocked with these pockets, but overall, the average wealth of the state hasn't changed very much.

I came away with the impression that the rich are getting richer and the poor are growing poorer, but not everywhere and not at all in similar patterns. Overall, it looks like there is an overall shrinking of average income, but it's not something a big average easily displays.

I guess it's like the old saw; When the guy next to you loses his job, it's a recession. When you lose your job, it's a depression.
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Old 12-21-2013, 06:48 PM
 
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Very interesting link, thanks!
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Old 12-21-2013, 09:42 PM
 
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I just found this"

Census Explorer

This interactive map shows the changes in income between the 1990 and 2011 census with the 2000 census in-between.
You can blow it up to the county level and even higher. Selecting the census district level will show the economic changes within a county.

There were some surprises. Kootenai county and Bonneville count are very similar in terms of overall income, but Kootenai has stayed ahead of the inflation, while Bonneville has not. Boneeville has lost a couple of thousand dollars in average inflation adjusted income while Kootenai has stayed a couple of thousand dollars ahead of inflation. Idaho Falls' prosperity has spread into surrounding counties, while Kootenai's has not.
Ada county, home of Boise, has done the best in the state by about ten thousand dollars. Blaine county, the wealthiest in the state, is still the wealthiest, but less so than in 1990.

Some counties have had major decreases in wealth. Madison, home of Rexburg, is one, even though Rexburg has tripled (almost quadrupled) in population since 1990. May of our counties have stayed about the same.

As interesting is the division of wealth in the big cities. The map blows up quite a lot, so it's possible to see the changes in NYC over the past 20 years. Manhattan was once much more economically diverse, but now it's apparent only rich people live there.

Some states have pockets of very poor folks; I looked over Ohio, and it's pocked with these pockets, but overall, the average wealth of the state hasn't changed very much.

I came away with the impression that the rich are getting richer and the poor are growing poorer, but not everywhere and not at all in similar patterns. Overall, it looks like there is an overall shrinking of average income, but it's not something a big average easily displays.

I guess it's like the old saw; When the guy next to you loses his job, it's a recession. When you lose your job, it's a depression.
Mike,

How Is this one different than what Sage has posted? Or is Sage ' s strictly about immigration and emigration whereas you deal with the economics of it all? Yes, Idaho Falls' wealth has spread into the county, neighboring counties and neighboring smaller areas.

Check out Irwin. Even the info on CD about Irwin was a mind stretch for me.

Maybe I am missing something, but isn't the fact wealth does get spread out make using the M.SA and C.SA numbers even more important instead of a straight population count?

Clue me in to what I missed. As I was writing this I thought about the PM I sent you about someone we boyh "sort of knew" via his relatives, who died this fall ( T. grandson). I was thinking of who presided over that service (as I was told). He is a prime example of living in Idaho Falls when he returned from his ortho residency and fellowship and started practice. Now that his kids are older and he's paid his student loans etc. He moved to a gated, elite community, new house, that may technically make him a 4B resident despite all his income being generated in Idaho Falls. He lives among IN.L experienced workers, some banking execs, real estate and a few other professions. All of that income use to stay in the city until someone developed this small elite area.

If that doesn't fit, just toss it

MSR
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Old 12-22-2013, 01:05 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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I was only making general observations. While I.F.'s wealth spread out, I noticed it didn't so much in Kootenai county. C d'A's money tended to stay in town.

Of greater interest was how much Boise's wealth has improved. Considering that some of Boise's biggest employers were already starting to cut back in 2000, I thought it was particularly interesting that Ada county still did much better than either Bonneville or Kootenai. I expected to see more money there, but not that much more.

I also didn't expect Madison county to lose income over the time span, as Rexburg has grown so much. One would think growth would increase a county's wealth, not decrease.

I spent as much time randomly looking at other states as Idaho. The more I looked, the less I understood the reasons why some areas lost or gained as much as they did. But for sure, a person has to have quite a lot of money if they intend to live in San Francisco or New York City. Both cities had a lot of economic diversity in 1990, but the poor and the middle class seem to have lost out to the well to do in both.
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Old 12-22-2013, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Alamogordo, NM
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The money is in CDA because Mr.Hagadone demands it. And gets it. It is a very pretty town and with Fernan Lake and all of the surroundings it is truly a beautiful place. Floating golf hole in the east end course and all! But if you don't have money you can still try and eek out a living and live in CDA. The waterfront area (including parking) is all regulated and registered by Hagadone to generate money for he and his estate.

I didn't leave for the SW desert angry, though. We enjoyed our stay in CDA and I still stand by my assertion that the CDA Library is the finest one in the land! Everyone enjoy their Sunday!
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Old 12-23-2013, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Studio City, CA 91604
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A lot of that Coeur d'Alene/Kootenai County income is derived from higher wages earned by commuters who drive across the state line every day into Spokane!

WA state wages are significantly higher than Idaho and that helps buoy Kootenai County.
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Old 12-23-2013, 06:29 PM
 
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I was only making general observations. While I.F.'s wealth spread out, I noticed it didn't so much in Kootenai county. C d'A's money tended to stay in town.

Of greater interest was how much Boise's wealth has improved. Considering that some of Boise's biggest employers were already starting to cut back in 2000, I thought it was particularly interesting that Ada county still did much better than either Bonneville or Kootenai. I expected to see more money there, but not that much more.

I also didn't expect Madison county to lose income over the time span, as Rexburg has grown so much. One would think growth would increase a county's wealth, not decrease.

I spent as much time randomly looking at other states as Idaho. The more I looked, the less I understood the reasons why some areas lost or gained as much as they did. But for sure, a person has to have quite a lot of money if they intend to live in San Francisco or New York City. Both cities had a lot of economic diversity in 1990, but the poor and the middle class seem to have lost out to the well to do in both.
I don't know for other locations, but Rexburg and Madison County I do understand, are least I think I understand.

BYU-I. College students don't have the income. Does that make sense?
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