California people (hoa, trailer, assessor)

[robi528]

I am also from california and also looking to move. I am not the typical californian. I say that with respeect to those that are but I am not. I have two children, currently married for 19 years and we have always lived in a small town in California, Apple Valley. There was not much here just vast land and good hearted people, including the kids. I have been in this area my whole life, and now I want out. Things change and that is great but does all the undesirables have to come also. What I mean by that is I am now afraid to go to the store at night, I have taken my oldest daughter out of regular school and I am now homeschooling her because of the kids that attend the school, we can not enjoy the fair anymore that comes once a year because the gangs and the young kids run around unattended making problems. The area where I live used to be small town, where you got a smile at the local store and the neighbors trusted each other with the homes to look out for each other. Now people have moved in and I am afraid to leave my kids biks in the front yard, in fear of theft. Stores are taking over, people, and trouble. I am all for some change and growth but we need to feel safe also. We are moving for that reason because I want a quiet life for myself as well as my kids. I completely understand other states not wanting outsiders because outsiders have come to my area from LA and Orange County and have changed the small town feel. They come here and bring fear, vandalism, and crowding. So I completely understand. So to say that californians are leaving, that is true but some like me, which are not all, are looking for what we used to have. I have read alot of post throught and found that many people believe californians live on the beach and sun bath and live in mansions, is really not true. I used to live in a small town with only one store in the desert area of california, no beach and no mansion. Just a simple person with smal town values. I hope that we are welcome in Idaho, which it seems if you are there to enjoy what is there and not change it then you will be fine.

[Syringaloid]

Originally Posted by robi528

I am also from california and also looking to move. I am not the typical californian. I say that with respeect to those that are but I am not. I have two children, currently married for 19 years and we have always lived in a small town in California, Apple Valley. There was not much here just vast land and good hearted people, including the kids. I have been in this area my whole life, and now I want out. Things change and that is great but does all the undesirables have to come also. What I mean by that is I am now afraid to go to the store at night, I have taken my oldest daughter out of regular school and I am now homeschooling her because of the kids that attend the school, we can not enjoy the fair anymore that comes once a year because the gangs and the young kids run around unattended making problems. The area where I live used to be small town, where you got a smile at the local store and the neighbors trusted each other with the homes to look out for each other. Now people have moved in and I am afraid to leave my kids biks in the front yard, in fear of theft. Stores are taking over, people, and trouble. I am all for some change and growth but we need to feel safe also. We are moving for that reason because I want a quiet life for myself as well as my kids. I completely understand other states not wanting outsiders because outsiders have come to my area from LA and Orange County and have changed the small town feel. They come here and bring fear, vandalism, and crowding. So I completely understand. So to say that californians are leaving, that is true but some like me, which are not all, are looking for what we used to have. I have read alot of post throught and found that many people believe californians live on the beach and sun bath and live in mansions, is really not true. I used to live in a small town with only one store in the desert area of california, no beach and no mansion. Just a simple person with smal town values. I hope that we are welcome in Idaho, which it seems if you are there to enjoy what is there and not change it then you will be fine.

You will be more than welcome in Idaho. Some of the most well centered people you will meet live in this state and the negative opinions you read on this forum are hardly the norm in Idaho.

[Anchorless]

Originally Posted by Syringaloid

You will be more than welcome in Idaho. Some of the most well centered people you will meet live in this state and the negative opinions you read on this forum are hardly the norm in Idaho.

Perhaps in the metro areas.

People in the smaller towns are a little more blunt about it, for certain. Though I don't think its anything to worry about at all. You might get some glares or flippant comments, but that's about it.

[bulldoggelady]

Originally Posted by robi528

I am also from california and also looking to move. I am not the typical californian. I say that with respeect to those that are but I am not. I have two children, currently married for 19 years and we have always lived in a small town in California, Apple Valley. There was not much here just vast land and good hearted people, including the kids. I have been in this area my whole life, and now I want out. Things change and that is great but does all the undesirables have to come also. What I mean by that is I am now afraid to go to the store at night, I have taken my oldest daughter out of regular school and I am now homeschooling her because of the kids that attend the school, we can not enjoy the fair anymore that comes once a year because the gangs and the young kids run around unattended making problems. The area where I live used to be small town, where you got a smile at the local store and the neighbors trusted each other with the homes to look out for each other. Now people have moved in and I am afraid to leave my kids biks in the front yard, in fear of theft. Stores are taking over, people, and trouble. I am all for some change and growth but we need to feel safe also. We are moving for that reason because I want a quiet life for myself as well as my kids. I completely understand other states not wanting outsiders because outsiders have come to my area from LA and Orange County and have changed the small town feel. They come here and bring fear, vandalism, and crowding. So I completely understand. So to say that californians are leaving, that is true but some like me, which are not all, are looking for what we used to have. I have read alot of post throught and found that many people believe californians live on the beach and sun bath and live in mansions, is really not true. I used to live in a small town with only one store in the desert area of california, no beach and no mansion. Just a simple person with smal town values. I hope that we are welcome in Idaho, which it seems if you are there to enjoy what is there and not change it then you will be fine.

I want to move too! I've been in the desert for 23 years, now I'm in Pinon Hills
was in Apple Valley, Spring Valley Lake & Hesperia. I know how you feel!!
I love Idaho and have wanted to move for 15 yrs, maybe I can soon????
take care and good luck

[porsche]

Originally Posted by skitow

I just clicked on The Idaho forum, and I can't believe what I'm reading. Why do so many states blame CA for everything in this country? I'ts insane!
I live in CA, born in Spokane WA, and I want to leave CA too. CA is priced out of insanity. I can't afford to buy a tent in this state. Ca people are being priced out of their own state due to the large influx of Asian people. I have stated that on a different forum state. I am not a bigot, or prejudiced; I am stating a fact. Why are we hated for trying to find a life we can afford. Oregon hates us, Nevada, Arizona etc. Please give us a break here. All we want is happiness and peace. We don't care who moves into CA. Check out the CA forum. We welcome all. I read people here giving very insightful info to newcomers to Ca. We are all Americans. Everyone has the right to live anywhere in this country they choose. That is what makes this country great. Freedom.

Yes, everyone has a right to live where they want. A lot of Californians are relocating to other, less populated and expensive states and by doing so are overwhelming former sleepy, family-oriented hamlets.

Historically, California--and particularly Central and Southern CA--produces such vitriol for the following reason:

CA has a long history of taking other states' water.

California has diverted the largest amount of water from more western states than any other state in history (though NM and AZ are vying for second position while the city of Las Vegas is becoming state-like in its own water needs and is forcing its needs on other communities in and around NV).

Moving large amounts of water out of other states and from the High Sierras all the way down to LA to build what was essential a desert country has wreaked havoc on many smaller states and communities.

What was left wasn't enough to support the very growth for which CA insisted it needed to provide. What I mean to say is that CA sort of bull-dozed its water needs over the needs of the very communities whose water was being diverted or, as many feel about it, stolen.

The resulting anger has never really gone away.

Just a thought.

[Sage of Sagle]

And to follow on the thought of the prior post...

It's not Californians coming here that's the issue...but "when in Rome" is very important here.

[brokencrayola]

I moved from southern California to Idaho in 1981. The anti-California sentiment was a lot stronger then, at least in Sandpoint. Sandpoint was more of a hippie type town then. I was pre-warned to get an Idaho license plate and get rid of the California plate as soon as I got here, which I did. I was also warned to not even speak about being from California unless directly asked. I was in my 20's and poor as dirt so coming here with lots of money was never an issue. It worked fine for me and I never had an issue. Now I have lived here 26 years, more years than most people I know.

[mustangjoey]

Originally Posted by Sage of Sagle

And to follow on the thought of the prior post...

It's not Californians coming here that's the issue...but "when in Rome" is very important here.

Great thought, that's exactly how I would hope it is. When one (speaking for myself anyway) leaves one place for another, he or she should find an area which is a good compromise of what it is that they want, and move there with the intent of fitting in, assimilating, and enjoying life.

If one wants to change too many things about Idaho, then my thought would be to keep looking until they find someplace that already has what they want. If they want to make Idaho too much like California, then there isn't any reason to leave California.

Sure, I might miss going to the beach with the kids occasionally, but I won't miss alot of the things that I want changed in our lives. At this point in my life, I just look into the beautiful eyes of our three little ones, and want what is best for them and for my wife. I moved around ALOT growing up (all in Ca), and can be happy pretty much anywhere.

I 'will' like alot of the things that I see as benefits in Idaho, and hope to enjoy it there.

Btw, how long does it take to get new plates?

[Torrie]

If I remember correctly I think you get them that same day while you're at the counter. Not sure which city you are moving to, but if you move to Boise/Ada county, go to the Meridian DMV to get your license & plates, it's faster.

[rockx]

Is it Civil war or something?

All I read about is:

Florida hating on NYers and New Englanders.
The Pac NW hating on Californians.
NYers hating slow southern tourists.
Texas and the South hating on immigration and mexicans.

Now a Californian can't go to Idaho without changing their Cali tags on the car? Screw that! I think it might be time to take a road trip thru Idaho!!!

Chill out Idaho...