California people (Boise, Meridian, Eagle: cul-de-sac, custom home, new construction)

[YOU-CANT-EAT-SCENERY]

Originally Posted by Miborn

I lived in Las vegas for 11 yrs before meeting my hubby and moving to Idaho. Yes he is born raised in Idaho. I had to deal with the Ca. people all the time. They were not very nice people as a whole and drove awful. They pushed up the housing market making it hard for first time home buyers. They are doing the same here. I lived in Eagle for the last 5 years and I have to say that most of my neighbors were from Ca. They were snotty, rude, I am better than you, road rage etc etc etc. people. Their children are no better most have no respect for adults let alone for themselves. They wonder why we don't want them to move here.
If they would move here and try to blend that is fine but they don't want that well most of them I should say. That is where the problem is.

Being from California (born and raised) I have to agree with you. I would like to think I am the exception to the rule though
Thing is though, most of the people in California, came from somewhere else..so what does it all mean

[ToothDoc]

Originally Posted by YOU-CANT-EAT-SCENERY

..so what does it all mean

Being a Califonian, it means that the rumors are true about Idahoans being biggots and xenophobes . . . oh, and Mormons as well. I of course am joking a bit and don't believe that for a second! 30 million people in this state, and we have idiots just like everyone else. If you go 10 miles east, you'll find completely different people than if you go 10 miles west!

So, I hope not to offend too many by saying your beautiful capitol is on my short list. I need cavities to fill and places to ride my bike. But not to worry, I'm a poor renter that won't be raising Idaho's realestate values any time soon!

[YOU-CANT-EAT-SCENERY]

When my family and I visited Northern ID a few weeks ago, we found everyone to be extremely polite and friendly We had our little dog with us, and we stopped at a Taco Bell in Ponderay. The kids working the drive through, gave us some dog treats for him. People wave at you when driving, especially when your on some of the back roads off of the main HWY. My CA plates didn' seem to matter at all.
Can't wait to be home where I belong.

[CosmicWizard]

Originally Posted by Miborn
I lived in Las vegas for 11 yrs before meeting my hubby and moving to Idaho. Yes he is born raised in Idaho. I had to deal with the Ca. people all the time. They were not very nice people as a whole and drove awful. They pushed up the housing market making it hard for first time home buyers. They are doing the same here. I lived in Eagle for the last 5 years and I have to say that most of my neighbors were from Ca. They were snotty, rude, I am better than you, road rage etc etc etc. people. Their children are no better most have no respect for adults let alone for themselves. They wonder why we don't want them to move here.
If they would move here and try to blend that is fine but they don't want that well most of them I should say. That is where the problem is.

It seems pretty far fetched to catagorize people from an entire state as being a certain way. I would venture a guess that the people you describe exist in EVERY state. When I was a kid, when someone resorted to name calling or complaining and whining about other people, we had a saying, It takes one to know one.

I'm wondering if this might apply in your case?

blessings....Franco

[SergeantL]

Originally Posted by Miborn

I had to deal with the Ca. people all the time. They pushed up the housing market making it hard for first time home buyers.

I will not respond to the rest of your diatribe; however, I will respond to the rising price of housing. It is not anyone from California, who is raising the cost; it is Idahoans. Californians do not own the property on which the homes are built; it is Idahoans. It is not California contractors and developers who are raising the prices; it is Idahoans. It is not Californians raising the prices of older homes in an effort to cash in on the raising real estate market; it is Idahoans. It is Idahoans, who are more than eager to inflate the cost of housing and real estate for the California suckers, without thinking how such practices will affect their own progeny. If you want to know why your children are having difficulty affording a home, just look in the mirror.

[Anchorless]

Originally Posted by SergeantL

I will not respond to the rest of your diatribe; however, I will respond to the rising price of housing. It is not anyone from California, who is raising the cost; it is Idahoans. Californians do not own the property on which the homes are built; it is Idahoans. It is not California contractors and developers who are raising the prices; it is Idahoans. It is not Californians raising the prices of older homes in an effort to cash in on the raising real estate market; it is Idahoans. It is Idahoans, who are more than eager to inflate the cost of housing and real estate for the California suckers, without thinking how such practices will affect their own progeny. If you want to know why your children are having difficulty affording a home, just look in the mirror.

This isn't correct.

Supply and demand raises the price of housing. Buyers want to pay as little as they can, sellers want to sell for as much as they can. When there is an increased demand (buyers) and a limited supply (sellers) prices go up.

The sheer number of Californians looking to buy into Idaho (more comparatively than any other state or region) are those helping to increase demand, which in turn inflates prices. They also tend to have more money to work with to out-compete other potential buyers. This surely isn't always the case, but it's typically enough that you hear the same refrain about California in many, many other states.

The alternative is to increase supply to deflate or control prices - most people here really don't want that to happen. Not because it affects the price of our homes, but because it seriously detracts from the quality of life we all enjoy. We don't want or need more sprawling, characterless communities. So we try to limit demand, which too raises prices.

So native Idahoans tend to feel threatened and cornered, because they can't compete with increasing prices. What are they to do? Their options are to either leave for a less expensive place, or overspend to get the home they want, or to compromise their values and allow for more housing. Naturally this situation breeds contempt, and rightfully or wrongly Californians become singled out as the cause simply because there are more of them coming.

It's not right, but it's the reality of the situation.

[CosmicWizard]

SergeantL wrote:

If you want to know why your children are having difficulty affording a home, just look in the mirror.

Well said! I want to give you a rep point for your words of wisdom, but I'm maxed out currently. I will do so later.


Anchorless wrote:

So native Idahoans tend to feel threatened and cornered, because they can't compete with increasing prices.

People everywhere can keep housing affordable by not accepting the inflated prices we are offered for our homes. Sell our homes for less. What a concept!


blessings....Franco

[SergeantL]

Originally Posted by Anchorless

This isn't correct.

Supply and demand raises the price of housing. Buyers want to pay as little as they can, sellers want to sell for as much as they can. When there is an increased demand (buyers) and a limited supply (sellers) prices go up.

The sheer number of Californians looking to buy into Idaho (more comparatively than any other state or region) are those helping to increase demand, which in turn inflates prices. They also tend to have more money to work with to out-compete other potential buyers. This surely isn't always the case, but it's typically enough that you hear the same refrain about California in many, many other states.

The alternative is to increase supply to deflate or control prices - most people here really don't want that to happen. Not because it affects the price of our homes, but because it seriously detracts from the quality of life we all enjoy. We don't want or need more sprawling, characterless communities. So we try to limit demand, which too raises prices.

So native Idahoans tend to feel threatened and cornered, because they can't compete with increasing prices. What are they to do? Their options are to either leave for a less expensive place, or overspend to get the home they want, or to compromise their values and allow for more housing. Naturally this situation breeds contempt, and rightfully or wrongly Californians become singled out as the cause simply because there are more of them coming.

It's not right, but it's the reality of the situation.

Anchor, you just made my entire point. Demand can be met without increasing prices, just as NewAge states.

[CosmicWizard]

The Idaho ( or wherever ) seller who ACCEPTS the inflated offer from the crazy Californian ( or wherever ) is as much responsible for higher real estate values as is the crazy Californian ( or wherever ) buyer. As the saying goes, It takes two to tango!.

blessings...Franco

[Sage of Sagle]

If this thread is to continue, a couple things need to happen;

1) Personal insults, even veiled, need to stop.
2) The conversation needs to focus on "California people" affecting Idaho, not global/world/philosophical issues.
3) 2-way or 3-way arguments should be taken to PM....it's getting a bit boring for the rest of us.

FOLKS, I have brought this back to being a LOCAL/STATE discussion about California People and IDAHO. That is where the topic needs to remain. If you wish to have a philosophical discussion on the global issues surrounding migration, economics, etc, you need to do it in the other areas of the site.