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Old 04-16-2021, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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So...are you suggesting an "eradication program" for non-native Idahoans?
No.
Only some non-native fish.
I do wish more of our recent immigrants would take up fishing as a sport and for recreation though. Fishing is a very healthy and rewarding way to spend some free time.

And the thrill of fighting a lunker rainbow is very thrilling indeed. The Rainbow is a hard fighter. That's why they were brought here in the first place.

Folks who live far away pay a lot to come here to enjoy what we can do for free, year-round, with no limit. Idaho's trout fishery is easily the most famous in the continental U.S.

That anyone with a license here can have that experience to such a drastic degree that a single day can have 20 such battles, for free and so easy, and with the permission to take the fish home, is something that may not ever happen again in our lifetimes.

It's such a waste to electrocute them. Such a magnificent game fish needs to be caught in a fair fight, even if they have become a serious ecological problem.

There's nothing new in the open, no-limit catch on them. Idaho Fish & Game expected fishermen would take advantage of this policy and thin the fish down by catching them.

It never happened. So the department's only alternative was mass slaughter of a very good un-natural resource.

We're living in sad times, and we have grown way too accustomed to thinking sad times are normal.

That's not just a non-native problem.

While new immigrants might not know of our Rainbow bounty, the natives should have known long ago, and should have reaped that bounty long ago.

There is enough trout harvest in the South Fork to feed a family for a winter or two easily.

Fishing is a much healthier way to spend time than staring at a screen or yammering on a pocket super-computer disguised as a telephone while locked in traffic that's never going anywhere special.

Substance in life doesn't come from piling one superficiality on top of another and another. Real substance comes from real living. There's no place where real living is easier to do than here in Idaho.

Fishing is one of humanity's most ancient skills, and the fact that so few of us now enjoy it is the real tragedy in this. Our natives don't fish any more than our newcomers fish.

In the state where Lewis and Clark complained about how easy it was to catch a fish. Idaho is the place where lakes once turned red with spawning salmon and creeks ran red with spawning trout.
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Old 04-16-2021, 01:05 PM
 
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No.
Only some non-native fish.
I do wish more of our recent immigrants would take up fishing as a sport and for recreation though. Fishing is a very healthy and rewarding way to spend some free time.

And the thrill of fighting a lunker rainbow is very thrilling indeed. The Rainbow is a hard fighter. That's why they were brought here in the first place.

Folks who live far away pay a lot to come here to enjoy what we can do for free, year-round, with no limit. Idaho's trout fishery is easily the most famous in the continental U.S.

That anyone with a license here can have that experience to such a drastic degree that a single day can have 20 such battles, for free and so easy, and with the permission to take the fish home, is something that may not ever happen again in our lifetimes.

It's such a waste to electrocute them. Such a magnificent game fish needs to be caught in a fair fight, even if they have become a serious ecological problem.

There's nothing new in the open, no-limit catch on them. Idaho Fish & Game expected fishermen would take advantage of this policy and thin the fish down by catching them.

It never happened. So the department's only alternative was mass slaughter of a very good un-natural resource.

We're living in sad times, and we have grown way too accustomed to thinking sad times are normal.

That's not just a non-native problem.

While new immigrants might not know of our Rainbow bounty, the natives should have known long ago, and should have reaped that bounty long ago.

There is enough trout harvest in the South Fork to feed a family for a winter or two easily.

Fishing is a much healthier way to spend time than staring at a screen or yammering on a pocket super-computer disguised as a telephone while locked in traffic that's never going anywhere special.

Substance in life doesn't come from piling one superficiality on top of another and another. Real substance comes from real living. There's no place where real living is easier to do than here in Idaho.

Fishing is one of humanity's most ancient skills, and the fact that so few of us now enjoy it is the real tragedy in this. Our natives don't fish any more than our newcomers fish.

In the state where Lewis and Clark complained about how easy it was to catch a fish. Idaho is the place where lakes once turned red with spawning salmon and creeks ran red with spawning trout.
Actually, my next door neighbor just asked the other day if I fished. I don't as I believe if you catch and keep you should eat and well I don't eat fish. She has friends that love fish so I might very well take this up as a new hobby!
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Old 04-16-2021, 01:17 PM
 
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LOL at conservative Idahoans being afraid of political change when it's still easily hitting R+30, which for those unfamiliar with political margins is very staunchly conservative. Transplants from California historically have made areas more conservative as they leave the liberal west coast culture that has made that state what it is today, and a major example is actually northern Idaho. In the far less competitive 1988 election, Idaho was less conservative than it is today because the conservative (and/or reactionary) influx in the north hadn't happened yet.
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Old 04-16-2021, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Lakeside
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Which is amusing since the conservative transplants from California implore us here to believe them that they won’t change the state at all.
The town that I lived in for years can’t get a school levy passed because of all of the conservative retirees who’ve moved in and vote and campaign against the school levies. The local people are generally all for them
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Old 04-16-2021, 02:43 PM
 
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Which is amusing since the conservative transplants from California implore us here to believe them that they won’t change the state at all.
The town that I lived in for years can’t get a school levy passed because of all of the conservative retirees who’ve moved in and vote and campaign against the school levies. The local people are generally all for them
Exactly. And yet these transplants think they are the model Idahoan lol.

At least the opposite is happening in the states largest city. It is becoming more liberal and even more Democratic with the growth.
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Old 04-17-2021, 12:16 AM
 
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No.
Only some non-native fish.
I do wish more of our recent immigrants would take up fishing as a sport and for recreation though. Fishing is a very healthy and rewarding way to spend some free time.

And the thrill of fighting a lunker rainbow is very thrilling indeed. The Rainbow is a hard fighter. That's why they were brought here in the first place.

Folks who live far away pay a lot to come here to enjoy what we can do for free, year-round, with no limit. Idaho's trout fishery is easily the most famous in the continental U.S.

That anyone with a license here can have that experience to such a drastic degree that a single day can have 20 such battles, for free and so easy, and with the permission to take the fish home, is something that may not ever happen again in our lifetimes.

It's such a waste to electrocute them. Such a magnificent game fish needs to be caught in a fair fight, even if they have become a serious ecological problem.

There's nothing new in the open, no-limit catch on them. Idaho Fish & Game expected fishermen would take advantage of this policy and thin the fish down by catching them.

It never happened. So the department's only alternative was mass slaughter of a very good un-natural resource.

We're living in sad times, and we have grown way too accustomed to thinking sad times are normal.

That's not just a non-native problem.

While new immigrants might not know of our Rainbow bounty, the natives should have known long ago, and should have reaped that bounty long ago.

There is enough trout harvest in the South Fork to feed a family for a winter or two easily.

Fishing is a much healthier way to spend time than staring at a screen or yammering on a pocket super-computer disguised as a telephone while locked in traffic that's never going anywhere special.

Substance in life doesn't come from piling one superficiality on top of another and another. Real substance comes from real living. There's no place where real living is easier to do than here in Idaho.

Fishing is one of humanity's most ancient skills, and the fact that so few of us now enjoy it is the real tragedy in this. Our natives don't fish any more than our newcomers fish.

In the state where Lewis and Clark complained about how easy it was to catch a fish. Idaho is the place where lakes once turned red with spawning salmon and creeks ran red with spawning trout.
I can go for 20 battles a day. What a catch
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Old 04-17-2021, 01:22 AM
 
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Transplants from California historically have made areas more conservative as they leave the liberal west coast culture that has made that state what it is today, and a major example is actually northern Idaho.
Nowhere close to being the truth. All one has to do is look at Nevada(formerly Libertarian), Arizona(Staunchly Conservative and now a leftist sewer), Denver(formerly a semi Conservative city, now a far left sewer, literally with homeless drug addicts openly defecating in the streets) and even how Utah is rapidly turning far left. The one common denominator in every single instance is the fictional California "Conservatives" escaping the cesspool they created.

They aren't escaping the ghetto they come from, they are bringing it with them and making the entire western U.S. a freaking overpriced and uninhabitable dump.
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Old 04-17-2021, 01:34 AM
 
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Nowhere close to being the truth. All one has to do is look at Nevada(formerly Libertarian), Arizona(Staunchly Conservative and now a leftist sewer), Denver(formerly a semi Conservative city, now a far left sewer, literally with homeless drug addicts openly defecating in the streets) and even how Utah is rapidly turning far left. The one common denominator in every single instance is the fictional California "Conservatives" escaping the cesspool they created.

They aren't escaping the ghetto they come from, they are bringing it with them and making the entire western U.S. a freaking overpriced and uninhabitable dump.
It sounds like San Fransicko.
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Old 04-17-2021, 08:16 AM
 
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It sounds like San Fransicko.
That's exactly what they turn everywhere they relocate to into.

Denver, Phoenix, Tucson, Las Vegas, Reno and Salt Lake City all look like mini San Fransickos. I heard so does Austin now as well. It's a plague.
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Old 04-17-2021, 10:05 AM
 
Location: North Idaho
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Add Austin Texas to that list. It’s a cesspool of San Francisco-ness.
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