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08-02-2008, 05:22 PM
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rickers is right, don't take it the wrong way.
I think each state has its own pace and life style. Coming from another state with different attitude could be a down side for you. I know because I speak from experience.
NY City has a fast pace kind of life style, not to say people are distant and not interested.
I don’t remember to have smiled to people on the streets of NY, but here even the cops are smiling and saluting. Life is mellower than in NY.
Work wise, the same, slower pace… I was “running” at first and I was told to slow down.
It is hard but you got to do it or other people could suffer. I didn’t want anybody fired because I was more efficient.
Sometimes you have to compromise, you are from out of state, can’t just go to someone’s house and start making rules because you are who you are.
You didn’t force your believes, but you spoke of them… is like opening Pandora’s Box don’t you think so?
If she didn’t know all that, she wouldn’t have a reason to say that all animal welfare activists are 'filthy, dirty hippies'… you understand what I am trying to say?
I am an architect, but in the beginning I tucked away my diploma and did any job came my way, as long as I had food on my plate was good enough for me. I didn’t make any demands.
When I was confident enough and things looked better and found a good job, then yes, I made use of my studies.
Is been 9 years since I moved to Boise and in all this time I only had one small problem with the LDS church but with a peaceful agreement we settle and forgot the whole matter. And since English is my 4th language and have a slight foreign accent, no one ever treated me differently.
IMO, this is a beautiful place, I love everything about it.
I hope you find what you are looking for. Good luck.
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Like I said, it is a small town. There are a lot of things of which I never spoke, but they managed to become an issue. Things that were just nobody's business but my own, and I'll let it go at that. I'm basically a very quiet, private person and I was there to do a job. If my boss didn't like that about me, I would have expected it would have come up in a review, which it didn't. All my reviews were good. I have copies of all of them. I have combed them and the rest of my employee file looking for a warning sign. Nothing.
I am not the first one to whom this happened, which I discovered later, and unfortunately I cannot assume I will be the last.
What my point is, if someone is planning to pick up and move to another state, (I'm originally from Montana, more recently Washington) they deserve to know what they can expect, both good and bad. My experience is not open for interpretation. It is what it is. Bad. Life changes are serious stuff with serious consequences if it isn't the right choice.
In my case, the wide open spaces, gorgeous scenery and fabulous weather came with a really heavy pricetag.
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08-02-2008, 06:15 PM
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Yup ! We live up on the hi-line in north central Montana and the benefits of being in a town like ours comes with many high price tags and it has nothing to do with money !!! We affectionately call our town "The Mayberry of Montana", complete with Andy, Barney, hundreds of Aunt Bea's, a whole mess of Goobers and Gomers and even an Earnest T Bass ! Just joking, our town has a nice little contingent of "Red Hat Ladies" Google that if you don't know about them.
Also Greensleeves if you cant get another job in time to rescue your finances and you lose your home and face going hungry, D.M. me and if you can make it up here We'll do what we can to help. I've spent too many years living in cars, garages, rooftops and alleys to see anyone go through that kind of life unless they asked for it. We have room and our Hutterite friends give us enough food to share with others. It is a good year for our area weather and crop-wise.
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08-02-2008, 06:19 PM
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I am sorry you had to go through all that. I had my hard times too.
Years ago I got a desk job in a small doctor's office (he was older and I guess old fashion), this guy was talking from behind of a mountain of file... honestly all his clients files were piled up on his desk.
I didn't voice my opinion at first and he didn't told me not to touch things around. I thought the girl before me did an awful job. But was I wrong.
A week later I decided to clear up all that mess and filed all the patients in the cabinets. All by alphabet, I am very meticulous of stuff like this.
I even left on the desk the files of all the patients coming in that day, in order of their appointments.
Next day as I got in, the Doc was roaring with furry, in the beginning I thought he is being attacked by someone. I thought he was going to take my head off. He ordered me to pile back all the stuff I took off his desk.
I tried in vain to explain that everything is by alphabet and he will not have trouble finding the files... he was not even willing to try.
So my job ended in a week, even though IMO I was right and tried to do my job the best I could and knew... but it was not enough.
Then I got a job as a waitress, was pretty good until one busy day the owner told me to "move it"... so I placed a smile on my face and said back "move it yourself, I am not a cow", grabbed my belongings and got out of there immediately, he latter apologized but I never worked for him again. I found out latter he changed his attitude toward his workers, because of what I said back to him. Probably he realized how wrong and impolite he was until then. So in a way I was glad to have made a bit of difference even though it was hard for me to leave the job and struggle after.
Is not always you, and who you are, is them too. And is true, if you don't have the chemistry, there is no way is gonna last, no matter how professional you may be.
Then I got to be thinking, if I had a business, would I be open for suggestions from others or would I be stubborn like a mule?
I am pretty stubborn
I found about Idaho, in general, not just gorgeous scenery and fabulous weather, I found peace, you could say spiritual peace (I am not a believer of any religion) but somehow here I feel home... even though originally I am from half the world away. I lived in NY City and for 7 years I was trying to find "that place", and as much as I traveled across US, I didn't find it, until I moved to Boise.
One day, you will find that home for yourself... sadly Idaho was not.
Luckily for all of us, US is so vast that I think there is a place for everybody, just needs some searching. 
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08-02-2008, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by rickers
Yup ! We live up on the hi-line in north central Montana and the benefits of being in a town like ours comes with many high price tags and it has nothing to do with money !!! We affectionately call our town "The Mayberry of Montana", complete with Andy, Barney, hundreds of Aunt Bea's, a whole mess of Goobers and Gomers and even an Earnest T Bass ! Just joking, our town has a nice little contingent of "Red Hat Ladies" Google that if you don't know about them.
Also Greensleeves if you cant get another job in time to rescue your finances and you lose your home and face going hungry, D.M. me and if you can make it up here We'll do what we can to help. I've spent too many years living in cars, garages, rooftops and alleys to see anyone go through that kind of life unless they asked for it. We have room and our Hutterite friends give us enough food to share with others. It is a good year for our area weather and crop-wise.
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My husband's Aunt is a Red Hat Lady... hahaha I love those kind of towns. One day I know I'll open a small little bakery on a street corner so everyone call me Auntie. I love the feeling of that.
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08-02-2008, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuisinette
My husband's Aunt is a Red Hat Lady... hahaha I love those kind of towns. One day I know I'll open a small little bakery on a street corner so everyone call me Auntie. I love the feeling of that.
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Years ago, my girlfriends and I started a 'Red Hats in Training' breakfast club. It was a blast!
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08-02-2008, 09:04 PM
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Location: Mayberry Montana.
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Our drug store still has a soda fountain counter with stools and they still run it as an old fashioned soda fountain ! The town siren sounds a short one off at exactly 8:58 every evening. The kids have a curfew and have to skedaddle home when it sounds.
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08-02-2008, 11:06 PM
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I used to think that unions were useless, too. Until I worked for a principal who was bi-polar - really. He and I were best of friends - poker, football, lunch, etc. He just turned.
He was fired by the district within a few years, but he would have let me go if he could have, and (not to brag) but I am an excellent teacher!
Now I'm a believer.
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08-03-2008, 12:10 AM
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This is my greatest worry about our future move to Idaho - finding a job teaching in the town where I live. I know I'm going to take a pay cut, and things will be different from the urban inner-city high school where I teach now, but I cannot express how much I am looking forward to the move and fearful of not being able to find a job. We'll most likely be close enough to Washington that I can commute to work there, but it is important to me to be able to teach in the small town where I live. Time will tell.
HP - check out the website theapple.com - it's a national site for teachers - there is an article last week about places in need of teachers - two of them in Idaho. You don't say where in Idaho you intend to relocate, but there is also a search feature that allows you to look at public and private k-12 schools that are hiring teachers as well. I hope it helps you.
TheApple.com : Where Teachers Meet and Learn
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08-03-2008, 01:29 AM
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Proudly clinging to my guns and religion!
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Originally Posted by rickers
Sue for your job back, you do have that right especially if you were promised long term employment.
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Rather than using time and money for a lawsuit I think it's much easier to have a union protecting people and avoiding all that to begin with. For the record I'm not completely pro-union, they aren't perfect and have their flaws like anything else, but I'd rather have a union to prevent such things instead of having to go through the hassle of suing.
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08-03-2008, 12:53 PM
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Rather than using time and money for a lawsuit I think it's much easier to have a union protecting people and avoiding all that to begin with. For the record I'm not completely pro-union, they aren't perfect and have their flaws like anything else, but I'd rather have a union to prevent such things instead of having to go through the hassle of suing.
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Unions don't necessarily protect against wrongful termination, although they can help drag out the process.
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