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08-02-2008, 11:23 AM
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Is Idaho a "Right To Work State"
I am a teacher and want to relocate to Idaho. Is there union tenure for teachers there, or is it a right to work state?
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08-02-2008, 12:17 PM
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I am a teacher and want to relocate to Idaho. Is there union tenure for teachers there, or is it a right to work state?
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Yes, Idaho is a Right to Work state. Here is a link that might be helpful:
Right to Work States: Idaho | National Right to Work Legal Defense Foundation
I might add that while I didn't think that labor unions were a good idea when I lived in WA, I certainly think they are a good idea now. It would have helped me a lot to have union protection from the whims of my Idaho employer!
In Idaho, you can be fired for no reason at all, other than the fact that your employer wants you gone.
Just a thought.
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08-02-2008, 12:29 PM
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That should be an employers right. If I was an employer and I grew to dislike an employee for any reason whatsoever, Why should I have to come up with a reason to terminate the persons employment. By the way I guess I don't have to say that I hate unions.
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08-02-2008, 12:59 PM
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That should be an employers right. If I was an employer and I grew to dislike an employee for any reason whatsoever, Why should I have to come up with a reason to terminate the persons employment. By the way I guess I don't have to say that I hate unions.
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So, even though I took a job in Idaho, moved myself 700 miles with the promise of long term employment, then was fired because there are things about me my employer didn't like;
1) I'm half Native American 2) I'm a Christian and 3) I'm an animal welfare activist
none of which I forced on other people at work, it's o.k. for me to be fired just because she doesn't agree with my basic philosophies?
I have never been fond of unions either, but people do NOT have the right to ruin other people's lives 'just because'. The truth be told, I didn't like my employer as a human being, but I was committed to the job. Did she provide training? No. Did she listen to me when I had problems with the work situation that required her intervention? No. Did she give me any clue that she was unhappy with my work? No. As a matter of fact, the last thing that appeared in my employee file was a glowing recommendation for a pay raise. 2 weeks later, I was out the door talking to myself.
The employment office approved my unemployment claim saying that I was wrongfully terminated. My unemployment runs out in November. I am behind on my house payments, my loan payment and have bills going to collection right and left.
How is any of this o.k. by anyone's standards?
ETA: Sorry, HughPam. I only meant to answer your question, not hijack your thread. Thanks for the opportunity to vent.
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08-02-2008, 01:16 PM
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Sue for your job back, you do have that right especially if you were promised long term employment. Even if you won you most likely wouldn't want to work there anymore anyway. Life aint fair, I would start looking for another job right away if I were you.
I think it may be because you're an animal rights activist that you were fired. Next time keep your private life to yourself and this might not happen to you again. I still feel that an employer should have the right to hire or not hire as well as terminate without cause anyone at any time. Sorry but that just happens to be my view. You may get a liberal judge to side with you, who knows !
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08-02-2008, 01:24 PM
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Just me, but I would have a hard time employing someone who "Didnt like me as a human being". Theres always two sides to any story, and I'm sorry things didnt work for your Greenleaves, but I think an employer should have the right to hire and fire as he or she see's fit. When you are guaranteed a job simply because you have a job you get the sorts of problems they have in France. People who expect to have a job for life have no real insentive to perform, or even get along if they dont want too.
Just my opinion..
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08-02-2008, 01:34 PM
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Sue for your job back, you do have that right especially if you were promised long term employment. Even if you won you most likely wouldn't want to work there anymore anyway. Life aint fair, I would start looking for another job right away if I were you.
I think it may be because you're an animal rights activist that you were fired. Next time keep your private life to yourself and this might not happen to you again. I still feel that an employer should have the right to hire or not hire as well as terminate without cause anyone at any time. Sorry but that just happens to be my view. You may get a liberal judge to side with you, who knows !
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I already said that I didn't force my beliefs on others. I am a professional. That's what we do. We go to work, we keep our private lives to ourselves (which is not easy in a small town) and treat everyone with the respect and courtesy we expect ourselves. You don't have to like people in order to treat them with a modicum of decency. But it was ok for my employer to say that all animal welfare activists are 'filthy, dirty hippies'?
I am neither filthy nor a hippie, thank you very much.
In another thread I said I was leaving Idaho because I'm living in a very rural area where jobs are hard to come by, particularly for professionals. I have spent months spinning my wheels here.
But this thread should not be about me personally. I think people have the right to know what to expect when they take a job in Idaho, which is absolutely nothing and judging from the responses, everyone is o.k. with that.
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08-02-2008, 03:36 PM
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Like I said before, life is not fair. Idaho might not be the place for you. I do feel that you were not treated fairly but however Idaho is what Idaho is, just like the faults of any other state you have to take the bad with the good. I know of a few folks who were fired for similar non reasons here in Montana also. Don't fault the whole state because of this event though. You may find a job with a new employer who may share your views and maybe even pay better. Behind every dark cloud is a silver lining and when you get a better job you may look back at this event as a blessing. Sorry for my hard nosed attitude and viewpoint, and I do wish you good luck.
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08-02-2008, 04:11 PM
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Like I said before, life is not fair. Idaho might not be the place for you. I do feel that you were not treated fairly but however Idaho is what Idaho is, just like the faults of any other state you have to take the bad with the good. I know of a few folks who were fired for similar non reasons here in Montana also. Don't fault the whole state because of this event though. You may find a job with a new employer who may share your views and maybe even pay better. Behind every dark cloud is a silver lining and when you get a better job you may look back at this event as a blessing. Sorry for my hard nosed attitude and viewpoint, and I do wish you good luck.
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My apologies as well. You may be right.
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08-02-2008, 04:43 PM
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rickers is right, don't take it the wrong way.
I think each state has its own pace and life style. Coming from another state with different attitude could be a down side for you. I know because I speak from experience.
NY City has a fast pace kind of life style, not to say people are distant and not interested.
I don’t remember to have smiled to people on the streets of NY, but here even the cops are smiling and saluting. Life is mellower than in NY.
Work wise, the same, slower pace… I was “running” at first and I was told to slow down.
It is hard but you got to do it or other people could suffer. I didn’t want anybody fired because I was more efficient.
Sometimes you have to compromise, you are from out of state, can’t just go to someone’s house and start making rules because you are who you are.
You didn’t force your believes, but you spoke of them… is like opening Pandora’s Box don’t you think so?
If she didn’t know all that, she wouldn’t have a reason to say that all animal welfare activists are 'filthy, dirty hippies'… you understand what I am trying to say?
I am an architect, but in the beginning I tucked away my diploma and did any job came my way, as long as I had food on my plate was good enough for me. I didn’t make any demands.
When I was confident enough and things looked better and found a good job, then yes, I made use of my studies.
Is been 9 years since I moved to Boise and in all this time I only had one small problem with the LDS church but with a peaceful agreement we settle and forgot the whole matter. And since English is my 4th language and have a slight foreign accent, no one ever treated me differently.
IMO, this is a beautiful place, I love everything about it.
I hope you find what you are looking for. Good luck.
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