More People Are Leaving Idaho Then Moving Here (employment, good)

[pll]

Many of them are looking to return as well. Read some of the California forums.

[Torrie]

Originally Posted by pll

Many of them are looking to return as well. Read some of the California forums.

I know you want to move back to Cali, but I would be very careful about your decision. The state is a financial mess as you probably all ready know. If I were a potential homeowner there, I'd be extremely concerned as to what's going on and where the money is going to come from to save that state. All I can think of is you're going to get taxed out the ying yang in due time; then what seemed like an affordable housing scenario, might soon become not so very affordable in the near future. Not to mention the current spending spree our government is undertaking. Californians could end up getting a double whammy at both ends of the stick as far as taxes go. A move and home purchase could be financially devastating a few years down the road.

Not trying to crush you dreams.....but just wanting to offer insight. I thought of you when I came across this article.....looks like it's all ready starting to happen. An IOU for tax refunds...are you kidding me? That's the last thing people need right now. So what's going to next?....is the question that begs to be answered.

California controller to suspend tax refunds, welfare checks, student grants - Los Angeles Times

[MtnFlyer]

It's important to look at the focus group. What those results are actually saying is that "out of the type people that hire a moving company to move them" more left than moved in. Think about elderly people retiring and fleeing the cold. Now what about young people who are recently married, setting out to build a better life, and moving to a beautiful state with conservative values to start their family. Many of these people will fit everything they own in the back of a U-Haul and head to Rathdrum.

Trace, you and I think WAY too much alike. I guess it's the shared name. A disinformation propaganda campaign to keep out the liberals. Pure genius.

[SacTown11]

Originally Posted by ejay

LOL I lived in Sacramento for a year. It was sweet! Some of the best days of my life were there. It's too bad that it got so over populated so fast. The Bay Area people moving up there really changed the attitude there. They are up here too. They are the ones I complain about the most. They walk around a brag where they are from like it's a badge of honor. Then they put you down for being so red neck and you are uncultured compared to them. I find it funny when I tell them that I worked in San Fran for awhile and lived in Sac. I look like a red neck and they dress in nice clothes with nice cars. I left all that kinda living behind years ago. Chasing a dollar to feel good about yourself is a waste of time to me. And having the latest greatest thing is also not on my to do list. I grew up in Post Falls so I know the area and what it takes to survive in poor mode. You can only live high on the hog for so long. Keeping a steady job with good pay here can be tough. You have to drop your standards to adjust to living in Idaho. If you learn to do that you will be just fine. If ya think your going to make a 100k here good luck! If you find that job chances are it won't last long. You guys ever see that movie by Richard Pryor called "Moving" and they move from New Jersey to Boisie Idaho? Great show funny to watch now and see how boisie used to look like a ghost town lol

I do see a lot of houses vacant now and a lot of the contractors are leaving town too. You should be able to cash out a house really easy if you got the money now. I saw a house that sold for cheap that was a half built repo. I think there may be more out there. Times are gonna get rough around here and jobs will be a hard find. If you played your cards right and you have cash there will be more deals as we get into spring...

You know, back when I graduate high school I acted that way too. I'd pretend I was cultured and better than the rest of my fellow citizens because I was Californian. I'm not sure when I changed, but I did...I suppose some Californians grow up while others never do.

[Trace_Rinaldi]

Originally Posted by ejay

LOL I lived in Sacramento for a year. It was sweet! Some of the best days of my life were there. It's too bad that it got so over populated so fast. The Bay Area people moving up there really changed the attitude there. They are up here too. They are the ones I complain about the most. They walk around a brag where they are from like it's a badge of honor. Then they put you down for being so red neck and you are uncultured compared to them. I find it funny when I tell them that I worked in San Fran for awhile and lived in Sac. I look like a red neck and they dress in nice clothes with nice cars. I left all that kinda living behind years ago. Chasing a dollar to feel good about yourself is a waste of time to me. And having the latest greatest thing is also not on my to do list. I grew up in Post Falls so I know the area and what it takes to survive in poor mode. You can only live high on the hog for so long. Keeping a steady job with good pay here can be tough. You have to drop your standards to adjust to living in Idaho. If you learn to do that you will be just fine. If ya think your going to make a 100k here good luck! If you find that job chances are it won't last long. You guys ever see that movie by Richard Pryor called "Moving" and they move from New Jersey to Boisie Idaho? Great show funny to watch now and see how boisie used to look like a ghost town lol

I do see a lot of houses vacant now and a lot of the contractors are leaving town too. You should be able to cash out a house really easy if you got the money now. I saw a house that sold for cheap that was a half built repo. I think there may be more out there. Times are gonna get rough around here and jobs will be a hard find. If you played your cards right and you have cash there will be more deals as we get into spring...

Im a proud redneck, and there are many in Cali.. I kinda like to think of myself as a sophisticated redneck though..Ha!!
On any weekend you might find me shoving beer cans up a chickens butt and slapping it on the BBQ, while shooting a few targets waiting for it to cook.. But I can also appreciate a fine single malt scotch, or the intricacies of an Omega Seamaster chronograph movement..

People who look down thier noses at "rednecks" will be the first ones that crumble when things go really wrong.. That song by Hank Jr. Country Boy can Survive is so true... You wont ever hear a song called NYC Bankers can survive..HAHAHAHA

Also Torrie is correct.. California is FUBAR.. Even if the houses seem "cheap" now, they are fixing to fee and tax Californians to death, as if they havent already.. All I can say is good luck to those in California in the coming years..You are going to need it.

[pll]

I think Idaho is in for challenging times as well. 34,000 unemployed in a rural state with few companies is a scary scenairo. Yes, what California is going through is sad but what does the future look like for Idaho?

[jwest09]

Originally Posted by pll

I think Idaho is in for challenging times as well. 34,000 unemployed in a rural state with few companies is a scary scenairo. Yes, what California is going through is sad but what does the future look like for Idaho?

Idahoans headed to Oklahoma and Texas for work.

[boi2socal]

Originally Posted by pll

I think Idaho is in for challenging times as well. 34,000 unemployed in a rural state with few companies is a scary scenairo. Yes, what California is going through is sad but what does the future look like for Idaho?

Idaho, in the past has continued to grow in recessions. That may or may not happen this time. But with California growing increasingly unstable businesses and people may be on the move and others like yourself (at one point) may find Idaho desirable. I'm involved in the foreclosure business and most of the people buying these homes are newly arrived Asians and/or investors who just plan to rent them out. To live in a nice neighborhood in LA or OC, for example, is still going to cost you more than to live in nice Boise neighborhood. We're still selling dumps in gang ridden neighborhoods for 200,000. If that sounds like a deal for you...have at it!

[Torrie]

Originally Posted by pll

I think Idaho is in for challenging times as well. 34,000 unemployed in a rural state with few companies is a scary scenairo. Yes, what California is going through is sad but what does the future look like for Idaho?

At least we're not so dire that they're witholding or tax returns, geesh! Idaho has a looooonnng way to go before they ever get into the position that California's in.

[boisefan88]

Originally Posted by Trace_Rinaldi

Im a proud redneck, and there are many in Cali.. I kinda like to think of myself as a sophisticated redneck though..Ha!!
On any weekend you might find me shoving beer cans up a chickens butt and slapping it on the BBQ, while shooting a few targets waiting for it to cook.. But I can also appreciate a fine single malt scotch, or the intricacies of an Omega Seamaster chronograph movement..

People who look down thier noses at "rednecks" will be the first ones that crumble when things go really wrong.. That song by Hank Jr. Country Boy can Survive is so true... You wont ever hear a song called NYC Bankers can survive..HAHAHAHA

Also Torrie is correct.. California is FUBAR.. Even if the houses seem "cheap" now, they are fixing to fee and tax Californians to death, as if they havent already.. All I can say is good luck to those in California in the coming years..You are going to need it.

All that will happen is that if California keeps getting worse, more and more people will continue to move out and into other states like Idaho.

And while Idaho may seem great now, and might stay great for a while, it won't be with a mass influx of people coming in fleeing California's financial situation.

And we certainly have our own financial problems right now. If you're been following Idaho politics we are drastically cutting funding for education, among a handful of other things. The current hot topic is Otter's proposal to cut state employees' insurance and/or health benefits. You should read up on it - it's really scary, actually.

Originally Posted by Torrie

At least we're not so dire that they're witholding or tax returns, geesh! Idaho has a looooonnng way to go before they ever get into the position that California's in.

This is not the best outlook, in my opinion. It certainly didn't take long for Arizona, Western Washington and Western Oregon to become a mess.