02-13-2009, 12:03 PM
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Sounds like you're doing it the right way, jennerbear! Spend some time in the Gem State, nosing around to find that perfect fit for you amd yours. You sound like "our kind of family", so you'll be cordially welcomed in every nook and cranny of Idaho. I look forward to calling you a neighbor - no matter what part of the state you decide on.
Have a fun inspection trip! And, don't forget to tell us how it turned out!
pimit2 (Bob)
Wonderful!
You know, it has been a "nail in the coffin" kind of year for us. We bought season passes to the ski resort and cannot go 5 minutes without hearing the "f" word. Go to Costco and the women are in designer clothes with botox filling their faces. We just don't fit it. We're not looking to come to Idaho to bring California with us... we're looking to go there to become part of Idaho.
Jennerbear
02-13-2009, 12:14 PM
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Wonderful!
You know, it has been a "nail in the coffin" kind of year for us. We bought season passes to the ski resort and cannot go 5 minutes without hearing the "f" word. Go to Costco and the women are in designer clothes with botox filling their faces. We just don't fit it. We're not looking to come to Idaho to bring California with us... we're looking to go there to become part of Idaho.
Jennerbear
You sound a lot like I did before moving here from WNY. After making the move, I find that Idahoan's attitude towards limited government, firearms rights, hunting, outdoors activities, etc, are just what I was looking for. I call myself an Idaho native with a birth defect. Sounds like you're in the same boat in a number of areas. N Idaho has a lot to offer you...just as you said though, housing and property costs are somewhat high.
02-13-2009, 01:43 PM
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Oh yeah, Toyman - right along those lines. N.E. would be a good fit... just need to take our time shopping, and pray we get what we need out of our house.
Jennerbear
02-15-2009, 12:31 AM
Location: Sandpoint, Idaho
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We live in Sandpoint in North Idaho, and we looked all over the west before deciding to move here. Ours is a real progressive town in my opinion, in the sense that most people here are very genuine and non-pretentious. There is definitely a Norman Rockwell feel to this area, where kids still run around on the streets without their parents worrying, where they have good manners and respect adults, and where people help each other out. Just the other day my wife got her tires stuck in a rut on the side of the road, then another car pulled over immediately to help, only to get stuck themselves. It wasn't 30 seconds later before someone else pulled over and got both of them out. This stuff happens every day.
And it sounds like the outdoor lifestyle would fit you guys very well. Schweitzer is probably the best mountain in the Northwest, Lake Pend Oreille just can't be beat, and the town always has stuff going on.
I would disagree that this area is expensive. There are tons of great deals, especially for more rural properties as you've described.
Good luck,
Rick Evans
02-15-2009, 04:01 PM
Location: Sandpoint, ID
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I was thinking about this yesterday. We had a late lunch at MickDuffs on First Avenue. As we exited, we were waiting for our daughter to come pick us up (she ran to the Co-Op in Ponderay for some stuff). We were at the corner by the Panida. We noted that even though we were NOT on the edge of the curb (as if appearing to want to cross) people coming down First would stop for us to let us cross anyhow since we were CLOSE to the corner. We actually had to wave on two different groups of cars who tried to stop for us, and step back near the wall of the Panida so that we were beyond the halfway point of the sidewalk so that people didn't keep try to stop to let us cross.
Look...I know we have our share of rude people in town, and some crime happens, but seriously, by and large, the residents of our town are some of the nicest people in the United States...
And to echo what Rick said...in this area there are houses and land for just about every budget. Yes, you can spend $750K easily with lake view or acreage. But you can also spend sub-$250K and still get a nice place. I did an MLS search through one of the local realtor's websites, with a cap of $250K for a residential place, and found several listings for very decent places in the Sandpoint/Sagle area. I would come to Sandpoint with a total budget in mind, but do the homework ahead of time to narrow it down to 10-20 listings you want to see over a 3-4 day period. Work with us who live here to give you blunt feedback about certain areas, which will save you wasted time during your visit. Most of us who live here are fairly opinionated about the good and the bad in residential opportunities. For example, I hate railroad noise, and we have a LOT of train tracks that run through this area. So train noise 24/7 should be a factor. Something you may not have thought about, but is a reality when living in some neighborhoods here...
02-18-2009, 09:48 AM
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Hey Jennerbear,
I know you said SE Idaho didn't look like it was from you and I respect that but you may want to give it another look. Economy isn't all that bad here and cost of living is still low. (no boom, no bust, just slow managable growth)
There is a nice Calvary Chapel here in Pocatello that two of my next-door neighbors attend.
Calvary Chapel - Calvary Chapel Pocatello (http://www.calvarychapel.com/church-details.cfm?ChurchID=100371 - broken link)
Main difference between N and SE idaho is climate. SE Idaho is drier with more sunshine, but we still have 4 seasons. Perhaps the threads about the LDS influence are putting you off about SE Idaho, but you are too polite to say so. If that is your concern in the larger cities, it is not really an issue. There are a few people that feel put out but most have no problems. If things are good, you don't have much motivation to complain. I guess what I'm saying is you don't get a represenative sample on this forum..
Best of luck on your visit and your decisions. It is hard to find the right place for you, some of us just luck into it.
02-18-2009, 04:07 PM
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I'll echo twinprism about religion not being so much an issue in the IF area, although alot of folks do say otherwise about Ammon and Rexburg. I've met folks who live in Ammon, none were LDS nor did they complain about LDS, maybe it's because they don't have kids in the schools there?
02-24-2009, 09:55 PM
Location: Nampa
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As someone who grew up in the panhandle and relocated to the treasure valley for economic reasons I would offer the opinion that the two parts of the state are very different in many ways. I am most bothered by the climatic differences between the palouse and the treasure valley.
I simply loved the seasons up north with sustained snow and blue skies in the winter and a blooming spring leading to a summer where we never minded not having air conditioning in either our home or our cars, this would lead into a fall filled with beautiful colors and often an indian summer of renewed warmth before renewing the cycle.
The Boise area and for the most part the surrounding area simply becomes depressing during the winter IMHO the snow we get in town seems to never last more than a few days, while every thing I see outside my window is brown and dead, and muddy, spring can certainly be relieving but all to often is cut short by a long hot summer leading into a short chilly fall. yes there are more wintery places in the mountains and even eastern Id but not the winter wonderland N Id can provide(IMHO).
Redeeming the area is the fact that almost everyone who has been here for a couple years seems to have adjusted to the friendlier ways and more MYOB lifestyle and on the whole are great people to share space with.
My advice to you would be to check out the whole state and make your decision based more on the climate and environment, to me this is the biggest difference between north and south.
That said, I would never want to live elswhere and certainly will retire to North Idaho, most likely not the area around C'DA but rather somewhere near the palouse.
02-28-2009, 11:50 AM
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WOW! Thanks SO much for all the responses. I went to find your spot dot com and guess what came up?? SANDPOINT! And Coeur D Alene. We will definitely be making stops there when we do our road trip. Sandpoint seems to offer a LOT of what we're looking for... watersports, horses, snow skiing.
Northern Idaho sounds like a fit. I just can't explain it other than to say that I am feeling "called" to Idaho - like it's where I'm supposed to be coming home to. The folks sound extremely like minded and the landscape is breathtaking. We were looking at barren Nevada and I was just filled with dread.
I still want to check out some of SE Idaho when we come, too. Thanks again for all the wonderful insight. I was reading the Sandpoint website where it talked about the kids in town sledding down their staked out hillsides. Let me just tell you - down the road from me there is the PERFECT sled spot. People were pulling over to enjoy this big dirt hillside that was placed there after floods. It serves NO purpose. Families were out there laughing and having a blast. Of course - this is California so it wasn't allowed. They ticketed people, put up cones, gave tickets, etc. It is disheartening. You have to have a permit to breathe here.
02-28-2009, 12:09 PM
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Okay - in another thread someone called Coeur D Alene liberal (by liberal I mean tree hugging + law making + gun taking). Is this true? Not for us if so. I recycle, don't litter, and am responsible about the land. But I want my right to cut down a tree on my property or shoot a gun in my back yard if I want to... I will hug no tree and hope to inherit my mom in laws fur coat.
I am "liberal" in the sense that I leave people alone and let them live theirs. But ONLY that sense.
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People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)