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Old 03-19-2009, 11:52 PM
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Utah's growth is mainly attributed to births in the state due to the religious lifestyle there and the push from their dominant religion to have babies.
Idaho is currently one of the 10 fastest growing states due mainly to in-migration. If you are looking for charming small towns, mountains, trees, and good air quality then you are better off looking north of the Utah state line and into Idaho as Mtn. States Resident implied.

Contrary to what another poster said about not having your cake and eating it too in Idaho when it comes to temperatures and landscape----------I have to politely disagree. As a native with great knowledge about this state I can honestly say that there are several options for you in Idaho. Sure there are some areas that might be too cold for you but there are many other areas that will work for you. Based on what you are looking for, there are options in Southeast Idaho, the Lost River Valley, Magic Valley, Treasure Valley, and North Idaho.

If you are interested in the Boise area there are several scenic options outside of the scenic city of Boise with similar climates as Boise where you can find a small town with views of mountains and trees.
Emmett is an attractive small town in a very pretty little valley just up over some foothills from Boise. Horseshoe Bend might fit your needs and is also in a scenic valley surrounded by mountains with trees in the town and forests in the mountains above the town. Weiser might also be an option as well as Payette. Both are charming little towns with great historic architecture. All of the towns I mentioned also have a river running through them which adds to the ambiance.

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Utah's growth is mainly attributed to births in the state due to the religious lifestyle there and the push from their dominant religion to have babies.
Idaho is currently one of the 10 fastest growing states due mainly to in-migration. If you are looking for charming small towns, mountains, trees, and good air quality then you are better off looking north of the Utah state line and into Idaho as Mtn. States Resident implied.

Contrary to what another poster said about not having your cake and eating it too in Idaho when it comes to temperatures and landscape----------I have to politely disagree. As a native with great knowledge about this state I can honestly say that there are several options for you in Idaho. Sure there are some areas that might be too cold for you but there are many other areas that will work for you. Based on what you are looking for, there are options in Southeast Idaho, the Lost River Valley, Magic Valley, Treasure Valley, and North Idaho.

If you are interested in the Boise area there are several scenic options outside of the scenic city of Boise with similar climates as Boise where you can find a small town with views of mountains and trees.
Emmett is an attractive small town in a very pretty little valley just up over some foothills from Boise. Horseshoe Bend might fit your needs and is also in a scenic valley surrounded by mountains with trees in the town and forests in the mountains above the town. Weiser might also be an option as well as Payette. Both are charming little towns with great historic architecture. All of the towns I mentioned also have a river running through them which adds to the ambiance.
Thank you so much. I really do prefer the thought of Idaho over Utah mainly because of the difference in population. I'm know Idaho will grow too, but it has a ways to go to meet Utah's pop. I have to go to my vehicle mechanic now but when I return, I will check out the towns you mentioned. This is getting exciting. I just hope my dream of relocating will come true one of these days.

Thank you too, Mtn. States Resident for suggesting "north of the Utah line." I'm open for all options in Idaho and Utah as well.
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How about Preston. You could live next door to Napoleon Dynamite!
Gorgeous area, but too much snow on average.
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Payette and Emmett, oh my gosh, a comfort index of 69 (heat and humidity mix)...too heavenly. Where I live in central Texas, it's 24 and hellish.
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Contrary to what another poster said about not having your cake and eating it too in Idaho when it comes to temperatures and landscape----------I have to politely disagree. As a native with great knowledge about this state I can honestly say that there are several options for you in Idaho. Sure there are some areas that might be too cold for you but there are many other areas that will work for you. Based on what you are looking for, there are options in Southeast Idaho, the Lost River Valley, Magic Valley, Treasure Valley, and North Idaho.

If you are interested in the Boise area there are several scenic options outside of the scenic city of Boise with similar climates as Boise where you can find a small town with views of mountains and trees.
Emmett is an attractive small town in a very pretty little valley just up over some foothills from Boise. Horseshoe Bend might fit your needs and is also in a scenic valley surrounded by mountains with trees in the town and forests in the mountains above the town. Weiser might also be an option as well as Payette. Both are charming little towns with great historic architecture. All of the towns I mentioned also have a river running through them which adds to the ambiance.
"As a native with great knowledge of this state...?

Lived here all of my life, friend. I stand by what I say.

OP wants the following:

"weather possibly like Boise or Twin Falls ~ not a lot of snow, decent summer temperatures"

Okay, this is easy enough - anywhere in southwest/south central Idaho, although I think OP is under the wrong impression - both places get snow (though not a lot) and reach the 100's for a few weeks during the summer, and usually stay above 90 for most of July and a few weeks into August.

"no city life for me and far away from it ~ rural town with a tad of charm ~ a modest home and an acre or two ~ population low, not over 2,000 (lesser the better) ~ prefer living on the outskirts of a small town"

This would exclude quite a few towns if OP is serious about the 2,000 population mark. Even more so if they want to be far, far away from a large city (in other words, far away from Boise and possibly Twin Falls/Idaho Falls/Pocatello).

"no bad air quality due to it traveling to a small town from a larger city, hence another reason to be away from the maddening crowd"

As I said earlier, pick your poison - if you want clean air you have to get out of the Snake River basin/valley. Though by getting out of the river valley your temperatures decrease dramatically and you get more snow.

And Fruitland/Weiser/Payette all have pretty cruddy air quality.

"would like an area with a view of the mountains and lots of trees"

Really, nowhere in Southern Idaho has lots of trees - it's high desert. Best you'll get is Boise in that regard, although I would say that most of the small towns have a fair amount of trees.

And it depends on what you mean by "view of the mountains" - most places in the Snake River Valley has a view of the mountains, if but in the far, far distance. But if want to be up closer to them, again, you'll have cooler weather.

As for Tohobit Peak's suggestions of Emmett and Horseshoe Bend - they're good suggestions, though may be perhaps a bit too close to Boise (especially with the traffic HB gets for travelers to McCall). HB gets more snow than Emmett, but Emmett gets a bit warmer.

I still think Hagerman is your closest bet. I can't think of many other towns that fit your choices.
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Thank you so much. I really do prefer the thought of Idaho over Utah mainly because of the difference in population. I'm know Idaho will grow too, but it has a ways to go to meet Utah's pop. I have to go to my vehicle mechanic now but when I return, I will check out the towns you mentioned. This is getting exciting. I just hope my dream of relocating will come true one of these days.

Thank you too, Mtn. States Resident for suggesting "north of the Utah line." I'm open for all options in Idaho and Utah as well.
You are welcome Canine*Castle.

As long as you are open to possibilities in both states there are many areas to look at. I laughed about Preston and Napeleon Dynamite. I have an aunt and uncle who have lived throughout the world and their last move has them in Preston. They like it so you may too. It's close to USU, and sort of equdistance from most of their kids.

You have an interesting name in "Canine*Castle." We all select names for different reasons, but seriously, does your name have anything to do with your love for or work with Canines? Do you hope to have a lot of Canines in your new home? If so, certain zoning or other ordaince laws may change your mind of where to look.

I respectfully disagree with the earlier post that implies Utah's growth is due to births. I don't think babies are buying houses and filling the new jobs created in UT., but I could be mixed up about that... UT does have one of the highest birth rates in the nation; however, IMmigration has a lot to do with UT, not NV or AZ, being the fastest growing state this last year. Usually, it is NV, but more from CA and elsewhere chose to relocate to UT this last year.

Let us know if your plans include a lot of Canines as that may make us think of other locations. Besides, one always needs a good DVM close by, if animals will be part of the family.

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I'm happy to hear that Boise gets up to the 100's for a few times during the summer. I'm a real weather fan. I love extreme heat (for a few days), I love when it snows, I love rain and crisp autumn days. Being from SoCal our weather is almost always the same. I really miss the change during the year. My question for you is about snow in Boise. When you say it doesn't get much snow, could you tell me a little more about that. I'd like to have a least one or two GOOD snow falls a year. One where the kids get a snow day. I watch a webcam in Boise and it looks like they get a dusting every now and again (maybe a few inches ) but then it's gone that same day. I have to have a couple good winter storms every year. I'm also considering NID, which I know gets enough snow for me. I guess I have the opposite question on NID, how hot does it get in the summer. Are there ever nights that the kids can play outside in there bathing suits? Thanks
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Thank you so much. I really do prefer the thought of Idaho over Utah mainly because of the difference in population. I'm know Idaho will grow too, but it has a ways to go to meet Utah's pop. I have to go to my vehicle mechanic now but when I return, I will check out the towns you mentioned. This is getting exciting. I just hope my dream of relocating will come true one of these days.

Thank you too, Mtn. States Resident for suggesting "north of the Utah line." I'm open for all options in Idaho and Utah as well.

True, Idaho has a ways to grow to have the population base Utah has but that is fine, that is why Idaho has a better quality of life imo, and Idaho's population is more spread out around the state and not as concentrated in an area as the main population base in Utah is.


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"As a native with great knowledge of this state...?

Lived here all of my life, friend. I stand by what I say.

OP wants the following:

"weather possibly like Boise or Twin Falls ~ not a lot of snow, decent summer temperatures"

Okay, this is easy enough - anywhere in southwest/south central Idaho, although I think OP is under the wrong impression - both places get snow (though not a lot) and reach the 100's for a few weeks during the summer, and usually stay above 90 for most of July and a few weeks into August.

"no city life for me and far away from it ~ rural town with a tad of charm ~ a modest home and an acre or two ~ population low, not over 2,000 (lesser the better) ~ prefer living on the outskirts of a small town"

This would exclude quite a few towns if OP is serious about the 2,000 population mark. Even more so if they want to be far, far away from a large city (in other words, far away from Boise and possibly Twin Falls/Idaho Falls/Pocatello).

"no bad air quality due to it traveling to a small town from a larger city, hence another reason to be away from the maddening crowd"

As I said earlier, pick your poison - if you want clean air you have to get out of the Snake River basin/valley. Though by getting out of the river valley your temperatures decrease dramatically and you get more snow.

And Fruitland/Weiser/Payette all have pretty cruddy air quality.

"would like an area with a view of the mountains and lots of trees"

Really, nowhere in Southern Idaho has lots of trees - it's high desert. Best you'll get is Boise in that regard, although I would say that most of the small towns have a fair amount of trees.

And it depends on what you mean by "view of the mountains" - most places in the Snake River Valley has a view of the mountains, if but in the far, far distance. But if want to be up closer to them, again, you'll have cooler weather.

As for Tohobit Peak's suggestions of Emmett and Horseshoe Bend - they're good suggestions, though may be perhaps a bit too close to Boise (especially with the traffic HB gets for travelers to McCall). HB gets more snow than Emmett, but Emmett gets a bit warmer.

I still think Hagerman is your closest bet. I can't think of many other towns that fit your choices.
I stand by what I stated as well. Every last bit of info I gave out I stand by. Idaho is a state alot of people have very personal feelings about and I am sharing my knowledge of my state. I do not agree with your sentiment about the air quality in Payette, Weiser areas although I realize there can be days with some questionable quality because those towns are in a river valley with mountains all around which can trap air. This is not unlike any other mountain valley in the West.

There are many options of towns to live in the Snake River Valley and Plains of Southern Idaho, some areas are further from the mountains and some are right at the foot of mountains, some colder, some warmer, all towns that pop to my mind have a good urban forest canopy. Some towns and cities are closer to mountain forests than others and some of those mountains have obvious visible forests to behold. Almost anywhere you live in the high desert of Southern Idaho you are within a quick drive of some spectacular mountain and forest scenery, unless you live in the Magic Valley and then the drive is a little further to get into the mountains than it is on the East side and West sides of the Snake Valley and Plains.
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