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Old 06-11-2010, 06:07 PM
 
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They are protesting a law that targets illegal immigrants therefore the fact is they are supporting people who have broken the law. What does that have to do with race? Come on now- do we really need to go there?


What other laws can we pick and choose to ignore? There are laws that I don't like. Can I just ignore them and expect the authorities to look the other way?
Good point and this is our tax dollars being used to indoctrinate our kids. But that is the kind of stuff all the current kid literature teaches. The end justifies the means kind of message. People need to wake up and demand that politics be removed from the schools.
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Old 06-11-2010, 07:11 PM
 
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Good point and this is our tax dollars being used to indoctrinate our kids. But that is the kind of stuff all the current kid literature teaches. The end justifies the means kind of message. People need to wake up and demand that politics be removed from the schools.
Precisely. I'm appalled how the public education is now a propaganda machine. We ought to probe NEA.

I graduated not too long ago, and I don't recall any subliminal messages...maybe it was just the area.
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Old 06-11-2010, 08:24 PM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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They are protesting a law that targets illegal immigrants therefore the fact is they are supporting people who have broken the law. What does that have to do with race? Come on now- do we really need to go there?


What other laws can we pick and choose to ignore? There are laws that I don't like. Can I just ignore them and expect the authorities to look the other way?
SB1070 also target day laborers, and anyone stopping to pick a day lobores[regardless of immigration status].

so no the law does not target ONLY illegal immigrants.

Day labores have not commited any crimes to date. so are the kids allowed to protest that fact? is that ok?
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Old 06-11-2010, 10:24 PM
 
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SB1070 also target day laborers, and anyone stopping to pick a day lobores[regardless of immigration status].

so no the law does not target ONLY illegal immigrants.

Day labores have not commited any crimes to date. so are the kids allowed to protest that fact? is that ok?
Day laborers that entered here illegaly committed a crime at the border. When will you get that through your head?
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Old 06-11-2010, 10:35 PM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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Day laborers that entered here illegaly committed a crime at the border. When will you get that through your head?
when did day laborer become synonymous with illegal? there are American citizens that are day laborers, the Az law does not make any distinction.

The person stopping to pick up a day laborer will be in violation of SB1070. the law doesnt say a illegal alien cannot pick-up a illegal alien day laborer, it says any person.

I have the facts in my head...how bout you?
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Old 06-11-2010, 11:19 PM
 
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Indoctrination takes place in the home, not in schools. Hypothetically, even if it does take place at school, it can be "un-done" at home because that is where the majority of education takes place.

As one person's definition of "neutral" can vary from one to another, so can the term "victim". With what has been said here, you would think children are victims. But re children victims of public school or are children taught to be victims of US society from their politically polarized parents?
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Old 06-12-2010, 04:53 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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SB1070 also target day laborers, and anyone stopping to pick a day lobores[regardless of immigration status].

so no the law does not target ONLY illegal immigrants.

Day labores have not commited any crimes to date. so are the kids allowed to protest that fact? is that ok?

Really? Are all day laborers issued pay stubs and W2s or 1099s? Do they all fill out the proper paper work such as w-4s and I9s as required by law?

Apparently you don't understand that tax evasion is against the law. You are failing miserably with these rebutalls. Your racial bias is more than clear. Would you not complain about any type of immigration enforcement?
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Old 06-12-2010, 04:57 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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Good point and this is our tax dollars being used to indoctrinate our kids. But that is the kind of stuff all the current kid literature teaches. The end justifies the means kind of message. People need to wake up and demand that politics be removed from the schools.

This is exactly how Obama got elected. The education field is loaded with liberals. They drill it into these kid's heads at an early age and teach them that people like Obama are good and laws like SB 1070 are bad. It's an easy target as these kids have yet to set foot out in the real world. Once they get a job and have to support themselves they then begin to see the light and form their own opinions. Right now they think it's hip and cool to protest SB1070. It's sad that they don't understand that they'r enot making one little bit of difference. AZ will go forward with this law regardless of how many little kids or others protest it.
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Old 06-12-2010, 05:06 AM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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Really? Are all day laborers issued pay stubs and W2s or 1099s? Do they all fill out the proper paper work such as w-4s and I9s as required by law?

Apparently you don't understand that tax evasion is against the law. You are failing miserably with these rebutalls. Your racial bias is more than clear. Would you not complain about any type of immigration enforcement?
you're going in circles...how does "Tax evasion" have anything to do with illegal immigration. <thats a rhetorical question...

W2s and 1099s are federal documents and have nothing to do with the State of Arizona or SB1070 or this topic.

I'm Out.
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Old 06-12-2010, 05:10 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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SB1070 also target day laborers, and anyone stopping to pick a day lobores[regardless of immigration status].

so no the law does not target ONLY illegal immigrants.

Day labores have not commited any crimes to date. so are the kids allowed to protest that fact? is that ok?
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Originally Posted by Rick Roma View Post
Really? Are all day laborers issued pay stubs and W2s or 1099s? Do they all fill out the proper paper work such as w-4s and I9s as required by law?

Apparently you don't understand that tax evasion is against the law. You are failing miserably with these rebutalls. Your racial bias is more than clear. Would you not complain about any type of immigration enforcement?
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you're going in circles...how does "Tax evasion" have anything to do with illegal immigration. <thats a rhetorical question...

W2s and 1099s are federal documents and have nothing to do with the State of Arizona or SB1070 or this topic.

I'm Out.


You said that day laborers are not breaking the law. I showed you that they are. Apparently this is the response you use when you have been proven wrong and owned. Who is it that's going around in circles? I'm glad you're out. You can't debate this topic rationally due to your racial bias.
Tax evasion doesn't have anything to do with illegal immigration?
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