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Old 06-11-2010, 10:10 AM
 
Location: San Diego California
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It seems to me as if we would be better off just closing the border with Mexico. Between the problem with illegal immigration, drug gangs, businesses eliminating American jobs and moving south, and the many other problems associated with Mexico it would be in America's best interest to just close the border. To be honest I really cannot see any downside to it.
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Old 06-11-2010, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Arizona High Desert
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is the pope catholic ?
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Old 06-11-2010, 10:52 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Bad idea for Mexico, Guatemala and others South of the border. For America? Not so much.
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Old 06-11-2010, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Phoenix,Arizona
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Well yes it would

For to long Mexico has taken advantage of Americas
good will and not to mention the cash we've given
them to combat the drug cartels

It's time that the Mexican Government be held accountable
for their actions and cut off the golden nipple !
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Old 06-11-2010, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Closing the border would be the best idea. Once again though, American's have a habit of pointing fingers at everyone else for their problems. Drugs will always be a problem as long as there is a market. The problem isn't with the drug lords, it's with the millions of American drug users. The drug lords are only reacting to a market. We the people are causing it. If everyone boycotted mexican weed and just bought humbolt or west coast weed and if everyone just snorted German Merc instead of colombian rock or bolivian flake then there would be no border drug problem.
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Old 06-11-2010, 12:01 PM
 
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Seal the border---or demand the gate swing in both directions.

Americans should be allowed the same opportunity to travel, work, start businesses, purchase homes, enroll in schools, secure medical and social benefits, march, petition, organize, demonstrate, fly our flag, drive without license, registration, insurance; bring our families, work the beach resorts and mountain retreats; eschew learning the language; maintain, influence and spread our customs and culture in the illegal's nations.

Fat chance. Little doubt it would transform their inept and corrupt governances for the better, as they were dragged into the 21st century.

To continue the one way onslaught is to kill the Golden Goose. Freedom and opportunity, should ring across the near borders and nations with reciprocity. The mismanagement of these naturally gifted countries (ocean resources, oil, timber, labor, agriculture, minerals, natural gas, tourism); has crippled their citizens, and is destroying our sovereign nation. If we are to (apparently) relinquish our sovereignty, at the least, we should insist the melting pot include other countries of the Americas.

Predictably, none of the venal leaderships involved are disposed to administer their duties for the long term benefit of the citizens. Our "leaders", and the supporters, defenders, apologists, and advocates of illegal immigration and open borders policy betray this Nation in their quest for cheap labor and bribed votes.

A pox on them all...
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Old 06-11-2010, 12:28 PM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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It seems to me as if we would be better off just closing the border with Mexico. Between the problem with illegal immigration, drug gangs, businesses eliminating American jobs and moving south, and the many other problems associated with Mexico it would be in America's best interest to just close the border. To be honest I really cannot see any downside to it.
That is an uninformed response. It is one thing to oppose lax security at the border, but to think by closing the border, the problems will go away is short-sighted.

the amount of commerce that crosses that border is substantial and would hurt far to many American business and workers.

"Dont throw the baby out with the bath water"...Fix the problems and strengthen the positives.
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Old 06-11-2010, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Pa
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That is an uninformed response. It is one thing to oppose lax security at the border, but to think by closing the border, the problems will go away is short-sighted.

the amount of commerce that crosses that border is substantial and would hurt far to many American business and workers.

"Dont throw the baby out with the bath water"...Fix the problems and strengthen the positives.
True just about every major appliance is now made in Mexico thanks to NAFTA.
My washer and dryer are made by a company in New Zealand.
What we need to do is secure the border. There is a huge difference between closing and securing. Like it or not we are now dependent upon Mexico. We have made the same mistake in regards to China. Proof positive that our elected officials either don't care about our security, are on the take, or they are just incredibly short sighted . I'll give the benefit of the doubt and say they are short sighted.
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Old 06-11-2010, 01:44 PM
 
Location: San Diego California
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That is an uninformed response. It is one thing to oppose lax security at the border, but to think by closing the border, the problems will go away is short-sighted.

the amount of commerce that crosses that border is substantial and would hurt far to many American business and workers.

"Dont throw the baby out with the bath water"...Fix the problems and strengthen the positives.
Ridiculous, the benefits would far outweigh the losses. Think about how many jobs would be created here in the US when companies like Levi's and GE had to close their Mexican maquiladoras and move them back to the US. Fixing the problems is a naive option. The more they talk about fixing the problems the worse the problems get. The only people benefiting from cross border trade are the Corporations who are getting cheap labor while at the same time being able to charge the same prices. Mexico has nothing to offer the US except border violence, drug cartels, a culture of mordita, and an endless stream of illegal immigrants who have no respect for our laws, rights, or our culture. Our relationship with Mexico is like a cancer eating away our security, prosperity, and lifestyle. .
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Old 06-11-2010, 01:52 PM
 
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Does a bear crap in the woods?

Screw companies complaining about offshore jobs. When they moved offshore, they didn't lower the prices while the cost lowered. So every penny went back to them. Screw them.
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