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Old 12-07-2009, 09:40 PM
 
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You guys don’t get it. If illegal immigrants even had the slightest chance to become citizens, they would. The amount of visas the U.S. gives out is like one in a thousand. The governemtn is scared that they will give out too many visas and the people will just stay too long in the U.S. with their expired visa. Things can be one about this. The U.S. can give out more visas, just monitor them better once they get here. The government is lazy and just loses track of these workers and they end up being here forever. There needs to be a better system for these people, and there won’t be such a problem. Illegal immigrants would love to get visas. Each time one of them applies for a visa, it costs them 600 dollars, just to be turned down. Lines wrap around embassy buildings in foreign countries, with people going in praying for a visa and crying when they come out rejected for no reason. WE DON’T LET ANYONE IN. It’s terrible. They don’t wanna pay to come here, walk through the desert with no clothes, water, or money to get here. Some get raped, thrown in jail, and even killed on the way over. They get here and can’t even get a good job, or respect from anyone. They miss their families. They have trouble getting liscenses, apartments, learning a new language, everything. It isn’t easy for them. If getting a visa was so easy, they’d all have one. Besides, who is doing the damage here? The American border patrol allows these illegals to come in; they just take some money and it’s a done deal. Should those cops be deported too? And let’s not forget how many of our own ancestors came here illegally not so long ago. No one knows to what lengths they would go to support their families unless they’ve been there. I bet any one of you would do what you had to do to feed your kids. Everyone thinks of immigration as a whole; statistics about how many illegals are here, how many jobs they are taking, how many kids they have. What about individuals? The statistics only got this high by individuals coming over for their own personal reasons. Just because they happen to be born in a different country (borders are only man-made anyway) doesn’t mean they deserve any less than we do. They are culturally different—that is why they speak a different language, have more kids than we do, and live with more people in their houses. This culture difference doesn’t make them any less equal than we are or any less privileged to have basic human rights. We are lucky to have been born here. Others weren’t so lucky, and it isn’t their fault. And what does anyone care about how many people live in their house? There are hospitable; they help their friends and family who need places to stay, that’s all!

 
Old 12-07-2009, 09:45 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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You guys don’t get it. If illegal immigrants even had the slightest chance to become citizens, they would. The amount of visas the U.S. gives out is like one in a thousand. The governemtn is scared that they will give out too many visas and the people will just stay too long in the U.S. with their expired visa. Things can be one about this. The U.S. can give out more visas, just monitor them better once they get here. The government is lazy and just loses track of these workers and they end up being here forever. There needs to be a better system for these people, and there won’t be such a problem. Illegal immigrants would love to get visas. Each time one of them applies for a visa, it costs them 600 dollars, just to be turned down. Lines wrap around embassy buildings in foreign countries, with people going in praying for a visa and crying when they come out rejected for no reason. WE DON’T LET ANYONE IN. It’s terrible. They don’t wanna pay to come here, walk through the desert with no clothes, water, or money to get here. Some get raped, thrown in jail, and even killed on the way over. They get here and can’t even get a good job, or respect from anyone. They miss their families. They have trouble getting liscenses, apartments, learning a new language, everything. It isn’t easy for them. If getting a visa was so easy, they’d all have one. Besides, who is doing the damage here? The American border patrol allows these illegals to come in; they just take some money and it’s a done deal. Should those cops be deported too? And let’s not forget how many of our own ancestors came here illegally not so long ago. No one knows to what lengths they would go to support their families unless they’ve been there. I bet any one of you would do what you had to do to feed your kids. Everyone thinks of immigration as a whole; statistics about how many illegals are here, how many jobs they are taking, how many kids they have. What about individuals? The statistics only got this high by individuals coming over for their own personal reasons. Just because they happen to be born in a different country (borders are only man-made anyway) doesn’t mean they deserve any less than we do. They are culturally different—that is why they speak a different language, have more kids than we do, and live with more people in their houses. This culture difference doesn’t make them any less equal than we are or any less privileged to have basic human rights. We are lucky to have been born here. Others weren’t so lucky, and it isn’t their fault. And what does anyone care about how many people live in their house? There are hospitable; they help their friends and family who need places to stay, that’s all!
As it is: especially looking at this nasty recession; the USA needs to cut legal immigration down further. As for illegals------------tough! We don't want your kind, period.
 
Old 12-07-2009, 10:12 PM
 
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As it is: especially looking at this nasty recession; the USA needs to cut legal immigration down further. As for illegals------------tough! We don't want your kind, period.

when your family came from an impoverished eastern european soviet block country, how would they've felt with this type of attitude, no one owns this piece of land, this is the land of opportunity where he who works hard wins, I welcome anyone that comes here to work hard and help us, I don't care where they come from.....
 
Old 12-07-2009, 10:17 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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when your family came from an impoverished eastern european soviet block country, how would they've felt with this type of attitude, no one owns this piece of land, this is the land of opportunity where he who works hard wins, I welcome anyone that comes here to work hard and help us, I don't care where they come from.....
My father came here legally; and had a sponsor. My mother was a native born American.

As for the rest of your comment: we are a sovereign nation and we have the right to control our borders. If you do not like it------------leave!.
 
Old 12-07-2009, 10:32 PM
 
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My father came here legally; and had a sponsor. My mother was a native born American.

As for the rest of your comment: we are a sovereign nation and we have the right to control our borders. If you do not like it------------leave!.

So, he had a sponsor, is that something special, do you know how many sponsor each "pachuco" has???? in any case, they will continue coming...
 
Old 12-07-2009, 10:37 PM
 
Location: Houston
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So, he had a sponsor, is that something special, do you know how many sponsor each "pachuco" has???? in any case, they will continue coming...
No, they won't.
 
Old 12-07-2009, 10:38 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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So, he had a sponsor, is that something special, do you know how many sponsor each "pachuco" has???? in any case, they will continue coming...
All the more reason to close/lock our southern border-----------which is occurring as we speak.
 
Old 12-07-2009, 10:39 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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No, they won't.
I agree; the party is over for those losers who try to come here illegally.
 
Old 12-07-2009, 10:42 PM
 
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All the more reason to close/lock our southern border-----------which is occurring as we speak.

Dream on........
 
Old 12-07-2009, 10:44 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Dream on........
It is occurring as we speak. Hopefully; the USA will pitch out any DREAMie caught here as well
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