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Old 06-18-2007, 10:53 PM
 
Location: Far Western KY
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Everyone and I mean every hard-working, red blooded, fully LEGAL and can prove it American get a I.C.E. (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) t-shirt. Everyone wear them, everyday. The illegals will go insane they won't know who's really ICE and who's not. They get so tired of running and hiding they'll run ... wee, wee, wee all the way home.

Sure it's a tiny bit illegal to impersonate an officer, but that government doesn't seem to have a problem with 20 million law breakers, what they gonna do with 400 million? (I know grant us amnesty.)
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Old 06-19-2007, 01:46 AM
 
Location: The best country in the world: the USA
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You know, I should check out the Statutes (the laws) in regards to impresonating a cop. You might have to claim to be a cop for it to be a crime.

They sell ICE hats and shirts in quite a few places, specially gun and knife shows. People seem to wear them. Who knows!
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Old 06-19-2007, 07:32 AM
 
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Everyone and I mean every hard-working, red blooded, fully LEGAL and can prove it American get a I.C.E. (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) t-shirt. Everyone wear them, everyday. The illegals will go insane they won't know who's really ICE and who's not. They get so tired of running and hiding they'll run ... wee, wee, wee all the way home.

Sure it's a tiny bit illegal to impersonate an officer, but that government doesn't seem to have a problem with 20 million law breakers, what they gonna do with 400 million? (I know grant us amnesty.)
A "tiny bit illegal"? Isn't this a little hypocritical then to use an illegal tactic to enforce a rule? Particularly when impersonating an officer is a criminal offense but illegal immigration (evidently) is a civil offense?

My quarrel is in your logic that doing something "a tiny bit illegal" is tolerable for one's own purpose, if one believes that what he is doing is right. I really think that a lot of Americans' fears are motivating them to lower their own ethics. We've seen it in other boards, the fear leads them to a reactionary place where they deploy a scorched earth strategy that doesn't reflect their true values (hopefully).

LOL. "Tiny bit illegal." I gotta use that.
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Old 06-19-2007, 07:43 AM
 
Location: Far Western KY
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A "tiny bit illegal"? Isn't this a little hypocritical then to use an illegal tactic to enforce a rule? Particularly when impersonating an officer is a criminal offense but illegal immigration (evidently) is a civil offense?

My quarrel is in your logic that doing something "a tiny bit illegal" is tolerable for one's own purpose, if one believes that what he is doing is right. I really think that a lot of Americans' fears are motivating them to lower their own ethics. We've seen it in other boards, the fear leads them to a reactionary place where they deploy a scorched earth strategy that doesn't reflect their true values (hopefully).

LOL. "Tiny bit illegal." I gotta use that.
It's the ol fight fire with fire. Actually as long as you don't claim to be law enforcement it's not illegal.
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Old 06-19-2007, 07:51 AM
 
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A "tiny bit illegal"? Isn't this a little hypocritical then to use an illegal tactic to enforce a rule? Particularly when impersonating an officer is a criminal offense but illegal immigration (evidently) is a civil offense?

My quarrel is in your logic that doing something "a tiny bit illegal" is tolerable for one's own purpose, if one believes that what he is doing is right. I really think that a lot of Americans' fears are motivating them to lower their own ethics. We've seen it in other boards, the fear leads them to a reactionary place where they deploy a scorched earth strategy that doesn't reflect their true values (hopefully).

LOL. "Tiny bit illegal." I gotta use that.
You could wear an ICE style shirt simply as a means of showing your support for the agency. I suspect the pro-illegal groups have shirts proclaiming their support for those who have broken our immigration laws, so why is it wrong to show support for the agency that is trying to put a stop to it?
Anyhow, the other day I was at the grocery store and there was a clearly marked ICE SUV in the parking lot. I almost keeled over dead because I never dreamed the day would come when I would see evidence of the ICE in the state of IL. I asked them if it would be possible for me to get such a vehicle and they told me it would not. Bummer.
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Old 06-19-2007, 11:06 AM
 
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And get an ICE stamper and put it on EVERYTHING! "It's us or them" time.....
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Old 06-19-2007, 01:51 PM
 
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Sounds great, don't want to nix this, but be careful. Here in So. CA where most people are Hispanic now, crime and serious violence is way up by the illegal/Hispanic group even in nice cities, I see angry acting out in public for 'nothing', even from middle aged men! I worry that those wearing ice shirts here would be shot.
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Old 06-19-2007, 02:19 PM
 
Location: SW Kansas
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Sounds great, don't want to nix this, but be careful. Here in So. CA where most people are Hispanic now, crime and serious violence is way up by the illegal/Hispanic group even in nice cities, I see angry acting out in public for 'nothing', even from middle aged men! I worry that those wearing ice shirts here would be shot.
Very good point.
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Old 06-19-2007, 02:44 PM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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Sounds great, don't want to nix this, but be careful. Here in So. CA where most people are Hispanic now, crime and serious violence is way up by the illegal/Hispanic group even in nice cities, I see angry acting out in public for 'nothing', even from middle aged men! I worry that those wearing ice shirts here would be shot.
I'm in So CA and I'm afraid that my car would be vandalized if I put a "Free Ramos and Compean" sticker on it, that's how bad it is here. You publically state your disgust with illegal immigration at your own risk. That's why I do it during rallies and marches. There is safety in numbers.

http://www.alhambra-insider.info/avatarsign/illegal_sneak.jpg (broken link)
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Old 06-19-2007, 04:56 PM
 
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It's the ol fight fire with fire. Actually as long as you don't claim to be law enforcement it's not illegal.
When you justify it by saying "it's just a tiny bit illegal" it suggests you don't have much more respect for the law than those you're trying to apprehend.

If it's not illegal, then it's not "just a tiny bit illegal." I would suggest purging that justification from one's mind, b/c it does nothing to help uphold the laws that we're trying to enforce, and it certainly is no justification for breaking the law. If it's legal, that's fine. I have problems with people who believe they are above the law. They're not much better than these illegals who are insulting the principles this nation was founded upon (incidentally, vigilantism is not one of these principles).

I agree you can do it to show support. Just don't act like a law enforcement officer.
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