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I agree with the posts about drivers licenses. A state issued ID card would work if you cannot get a DL. But we still have a big problem with fake licenses, so here is what I propose.. I know in California we have to give our fingerprint for a DL or ID, and they go into the database. I also know the local police down here are being equipped with fingerprint scanners in the police vehicles to make use of the fingerprint database. So why not require a state issued DL or ID, and if every state already requires a fingerprint to obtain one (does anyone know of states that do not??) we can cheaply equip police vehicles with the readers and verify if you are who you say.. and I think in todays day and age we need to have all the states electronically networked to verify out of state licenses.
I've had a driver's license in CA and AZ and never was fingerprinted.
I got an AZ ID card in 2002 and wasn't fingerprinted.
My son got an OR ID in 2006 and wasn't fingerprinted.
(I still use my AZ ID card because it never expires. Will eventually get one in OR.)
I am all for a national ID card with fingerprints.
I've had a driver's license in CA and AZ and never was fingerprinted.
I got an AZ ID card in 2002 and wasn't fingerprinted.
My son got an OR ID in 2006 and wasn't fingerprinted.
(I still use my AZ ID card because it never expires. Will eventually get one in OR.)
I am all for a national ID card with fingerprints.
That's odd, maybe because you had an out of state DL the California DMV did not bother fingerprinting you, but I know for a fact they do here for California residents. Crazy to think you can get an ID without a fingerprint... maybe I'm just use to California's laws??
That's odd, maybe because you had an out of state DL the California DMV did not bother fingerprinting you, but I know for a fact they do here for California residents. Crazy to think you can get an ID without a fingerprint... maybe I'm just use to California's laws??
Actually, I had the CA DL first. Maybe because it was way back in the early '80s?
This is the first time I have even heard of people being fingerprinted for DL or IDs. I think it's a great idea.
Most countries require its citizens and permanent residents to carry national ID cards at all times. In the United States this is only required of permanent residents and not citizens.
To combat illegal immigration while treating everyone equally and avoiding "racial profiling", perhaps we should do what many other countries do which is make it compulsory for everyone to carry one's identity card at all times when in public areas and to produce it when requested by a police or immigration officer during a lawful stop (such as a traffic violation, etc).
Since permanent legal residents already have to carry the "green card" at all times, we simply need to mandate that U.S citizens also have to carry their "passport card" as well. For those who don't know, the U.S. issues the passport card to any American citizen upon voluntary application. So all that would need to be done is to mandate all U.S. citizens to have to carry it.
With this requirement in place, illegal immigration will be severely curtailed. At the same time since everyone is forced to carry national ID and subject to inspection, everyone is treated equally and no one can feel being singled out because of race.
Most countries don't have something called freedom or the US constitution. China and Cuba may require national id's and their crime may be half of the US, but I wouldn't trade my freedom for some added security. Those people that are willing to do that don't deserve either. Funny how the people who claim not to trust the government are so quick to give them added powers, funny how the people who use the word "freedom" like it's going out of style have no problem trading it in for security, funny how people who claim to defend the constitution are willing to shred it. Funny indeed.
Most countries don't have something called freedom or the US constitution. China and Cuba may require national id's and their crime may be half of the US, but I wouldn't trade my freedom for some added security. Those people that are willing to do that don't deserve either. Funny how the people who claim not to trust the government are so quick to give them added powers, funny how the people who use the word "freedom" like it's going out of style have no problem trading it in for security, funny how people who claim to defend the constitution are willing to shred it. Funny indeed.
It is really a stretch to claim that having a more secure I.D. is giving up our freedoms and giving more power to the government. It is really a stretch to claim that wanting a constitutional amendment to something outdated is shredding it.
Most countries don't have something called freedom or the US constitution. China and Cuba may require national id's and their crime may be half of the US, but I wouldn't trade my freedom for some added security. Those people that are willing to do that don't deserve either. Funny how the people who claim not to trust the government are so quick to give them added powers, funny how the people who use the word "freedom" like it's going out of style have no problem trading it in for security, funny how people who claim to defend the constitution are willing to shred it. Funny indeed.
I've been to China. I needed to provide a passport just to check in at a hotel.
You wouldnt trade your freedom for added security? What a leap. How is requiring an I.D taking away from your freedom? Lets talk sense here before we bash people who would like a little added security.
Does identification really give the government more power? If so, for what? To know who we are?? They already do!! You pay taxes, own anything, buy anything, drive anything - THEY KNOW WHO YOU ARE.
Asking for I.D equates to shredding the constitution to you?
Most countries don't have something called freedom or the US constitution. China and Cuba may require national id's and their crime may be half of the US, but I wouldn't trade my freedom for some added security. Those people that are willing to do that don't deserve either. Funny how the people who claim not to trust the government are so quick to give them added powers, funny how the people who use the word "freedom" like it's going out of style have no problem trading it in for security, funny how people who claim to defend the constitution are willing to shred it. Funny indeed.
Having a National ID card is a loss in freedom? Then so is a SS card, a drivers licence, a library card, a deed to property,a title for a car, and just about any other document with your name on it.
How is having an ID card a loss of freedom? Oh I can see how it might infringe upon people who like to use a fake ID.
Having a National ID card is a loss in freedom? Then so is a SS card, a drivers licence, a library card, a deed to property,a title for a car, and just about any other document with your name on it.
How is having an ID card a loss of freedom? Oh I can see how it might infringe upon people who like to use a fake ID.
Exactly. Oh, let's not forget the real ID act, too...
So it's really redundant to fight it. Especially when records are now digitally stored and access is instantaneous.
If you want freedom from IDs, turn back time to say, 1910. Then you'll be really free!
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