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Old 06-22-2010, 10:57 PM
 
Location: Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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The governement of mexico has a lot of nerve to interfere in our internal domestic political issues. In the past when we had a real president, he would have told Mexico's presdient to mind his own business. This is a country that the majority of it's citizens, if they could , would come to our counrty in a heart beat. Calderon should be doing something for his own people instead of injecting himself in our internal affairs.
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Old 06-22-2010, 10:59 PM
 
Location: 3rd rock from the sun
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FINE...file a suit against them for the 30 million illegals cruising our streets
It's amazing how that number keeps increasing in lockstep with the rhetoric. 30 million? 10% of the US population is illegal?

& BTW: Mexico did not file a lawsuit against Arizona.
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Old 06-23-2010, 12:12 AM
 
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What's wrong with you? Read the headline! Doesn't it say "Mexico Files Lawsuit"? Don't let ignorance get in the way of the facts!!!
Didn't you read the story? Can't you read??? The headline is incorrect, just like your OP. Don't let the facts confuse you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DztBrNakKmc

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Old 06-23-2010, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Didn't you read the story? Can't you read??? The headline is incorrect, just like your OP. Don't let the facts confuse you.


YouTube - George Carlin - "Some People Are Stupid"
a little restraint and humiliation would be good
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Old 06-23-2010, 11:17 AM
 
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a little restraint and humiliation would be good
Tuco is right though. An amicus brief does not make one a plaintiff. The headlines are misleading and whether from ignorance or willful deception some are claiming that Mexico has filed suit, which is erroneous.
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Old 06-23-2010, 01:17 PM
 
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Maybe we can just fix the problem and take over Mexico and clean up the entire rat infested disease ridden country.



Lets just take the entire country over and bulldoze the nasty dirty towns, save those beach towns and remove their flag and place our flag in its place.

We can force the to learn English, obey the US laws etc.

I am sick of them trying to push us around.

The idiot Mexican President should not be allowed on our land at all.

We need to take the stand that if you mess with us and we will take you down.

Time to not allow Mexico to breed little disease filled drug ridden kids and send them here to murder, rape and steal.

Hey, since the crapheads want to come to the US and not be an American and obey our laws we need to do something.

Who was it that let the Mexicans debt to the US go?

Since they owe us money we can just take over their country and use the resources they have correctly.

Wtf?!
Hope you are being facetious ......I'd hate to think that such shiite stained ideology was for real.
Hate against the problem of illegal immigration -- but to hate on kids is just beyond the pale.
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Old 06-23-2010, 01:22 PM
 
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Tuco is right though. An amicus brief does not make one a plaintiff. The headlines are misleading and whether from ignorance or willful deception some are claiming that Mexico has filed suit, which is erroneous.
Yet lets not pretend that filing an amicus brief does not mean becoming fully involved in the lawsuit:

An amicus brief is a document which is filed in a court by someone who is not directly related to the case under consideration. The most classic example of an amicus brief is a document filed by an advocacy group such as the American Civil Liberties Union. The additional information which is found in such a document can be useful for the judge evaluating the case, and it becomes part of the official case record.

Amici curiae cmicus brief. an do a variety of things in addition to filing an aThey can also contribute academic evaluation of various matters related to a case, and they may testify and in very rare cases contribute to closing oral arguments. Many advocacy organizations act as amici curiae, as do some concerned individuals. States and governments may also step in with amicus briefs if they believe that a case may impact them.

Mexico is not acting as a bystander on this case - they are getting involved in it. Funny how they are so concerned about their citizens while living illegally in the US but have little to no concern for them when they are living legally in Mexico.
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Old 06-23-2010, 01:32 PM
 
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Really?

Are they listed on the lawsuit as a plaintiff? Why, no, they aren't. So if they aren't listed, how can they be a party to a lawsuit? They can't, actually. They can be a "friend of the court", filing a brief which explains to the court their interest in the lawsuit, and arguing to support which side of the suit they favor. But "friends of the court" aren't plaintiffs.

Mexico is NOT suing Arizona.
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Old 06-23-2010, 01:34 PM
 
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Yet lets not pretend that filing an amicus brief does not mean becoming fully involved in the lawsuit:

An amicus brief is a document which is filed in a court by someone who is not directly related to the case under consideration. The most classic example of an amicus brief is a document filed by an advocacy group such as the American Civil Liberties Union. The additional information which is found in such a document can be useful for the judge evaluating the case, and it becomes part of the official case record.

Amici curiae cmicus brief. an do a variety of things in addition to filing an aThey can also contribute academic evaluation of various matters related to a case, and they may testify and in very rare cases contribute to closing oral arguments. Many advocacy organizations act as amici curiae, as do some concerned individuals. States and governments may also step in with amicus briefs if they believe that a case may impact them.

Mexico is not acting as a bystander on this case - they are getting involved in it. Funny how they are so concerned about their citizens while living illegally in the US but have little to no concern for them when they are living legally in Mexico.
I don't understand what "fully involved" means. An amicus curiae brief by definition means that they are not party to litigation.

Mexico is not an uninterested bystander. That much is not disputed. The problem is that it is simply untrue that they have filed suit. To claim otherwise is false. After several here have shown this some still persist in error. Moreover, they attempt to call out those with facts and reality on their side.

Once we've left the realm of reason, then anything goes. We should concern ourselves with the truth.
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Old 06-23-2010, 02:06 PM
 
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I don't understand what "fully involved" means. An amicus curiae brief by definition means that they are not party to litigation.

Mexico is not an uninterested bystander. That much is not disputed. The problem is that it is simply untrue that they have filed suit. To claim otherwise is false. After several here have shown this some still persist in error. Moreover, they attempt to call out those with facts and reality on their side.

Once we've left the realm of reason, then anything goes. We should concern ourselves with the truth.
We should also concern ourselves by not splitting hairs.

Mexico is not suing Arizona, however Mexico has involved itself with the lawsuit via an amicus brief. By doing so Mexico will help the lawsuit by providing documents that it feels will help its side to possibly testifying in court and yes...even giving a formal closing argument (though that is apparently very rare.)

Let's stop pretending that an amicus brief is the equivelant of signing a petition. It's not.
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