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Old 06-23-2010, 06:40 PM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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Common Myths and Facts Regarding Senate Bill 1070 | Support Arizona

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June 23, 2010

While Senate Bill (S.B.) 1070, as amended by House Bill (H.B.) 2162, is characterized by many as the toughest anti-illegal immigration law in the nation, many of its opponents have mischaracterized or exaggerated its provisions. This document seeks to correct those mischaracterizations by referring to the express provisions of S.B. 1070 and relevant federal and state case law. All references to S.B. 1070 include the amendments made by H.B. 2162.
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Old 06-24-2010, 07:56 AM
 
Location: east of my daughter-north of my son
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Great post! Thanks for putting it out there. I just wish it was out there for the rest of the country to read.

I was skeptical when the law passed and was worried about profiling. That was thanks to the press who focused on that. I then read the actual law and understood what it was "saying". Now I stand with Arizona.
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Old 06-24-2010, 10:34 AM
 
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This is the same info found on the Governor's website.

Notice #4 doesn't include the language from Gonzalez about civil provisions.

#10 clearly states that it doesn't address the criminal aspects of smuggling and drugs.

Not only does it not address the legal questions of civil provision enforcement, it doesn't mention the real concerns of creating state crimes. This goes beyond enforcing Sec. 1324-1326 or 287(g) of the INA.

So, while it may answer some questions for the uninformed it can not eliminate opposition to real, substantiated problems such as I've pointed out without further changes to bill.
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Old 06-24-2010, 11:00 AM
 
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This needs to be spread nationwide.

I'm a little surprised at myth #7. Who spun that ridiculously stupid theory?
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Old 06-24-2010, 11:32 AM
 
Location: east of my daughter-north of my son
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This needs to be spread nationwide.

I'm a little surprised at myth #7. Who spun that ridiculously stupid theory?
Two guesses and the first one doesn't count.
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Old 06-24-2010, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Don't be a cry baby!
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Cool post!
Good luck getting rid of the illegal aliens!
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Old 06-24-2010, 03:20 PM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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4. MYTH: S.B. 1070 is unconstitutional because it intrudes on the federal government's power to enforce immigration laws. Only the federal government has the authority to enforce federal immigration laws.

This myth is correct, but lets review what Arizona is doing with Az SB 1070, Arizona is writting immigration law, there is the difference. Arizona does not have that right. So there are 9 common myths regarding 1070.
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Old 06-24-2010, 03:59 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Just as States have bypassed the Constitution (The second, the right to bear arms and State laws prohibiting it) Az can create laws that duplicate it.
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Old 06-24-2010, 05:11 PM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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4. MYTH: S.B. 1070 is unconstitutional because it intrudes on the federal government's power to enforce immigration laws. Only the federal government has the authority to enforce federal immigration laws.

This myth is correct, but lets review what Arizona is doing with Az SB 1070, Arizona is writting immigration law, there is the difference. Arizona does not have that right. So there are 9 common myths regarding 1070.
Wrong...wrong....oh so wrong.....

One of President Clinton's best moves, The Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996.

IIRIRA 96 - A SUMMARY OF THE IMMIGRATION BILL

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The INS' internal enforcement efforts will also be stepped up as a result of IIRIRA 96. The INS is authorized to hire 300 additional personnel for the next three years to investigate alien smuggling and the unlawful employment of aliens. For the next year, the INS is authorized to hire an additional 300 investigators targeting visa overstayers. The number of INS officials in each state must be at least ten by October of next year. And the Attorney General will be allowed to also enter into agreements with states allowing state officials to carry out investigations, apprehension and detention of aliens. Such state officials are required to be trained in the enforcement of federal laws.
IIRIRA 96 - A SUMMARY OF THE NEW IMMIGRATION BILL - November 1996

This has been in effect for 14 years. Agreements are already in place and do not have to be renewed on an administration to administration basis.
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Old 06-24-2010, 06:43 PM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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Wrong...wrong....oh so wrong.....

One of President Clinton's best moves, The Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996.

IIRIRA 96 - A SUMMARY OF THE IMMIGRATION BILL

<SNIP>

IIRIRA 96 - A SUMMARY OF THE NEW IMMIGRATION BILL - November 1996

This has been in effect for 14 years. Agreements are already in place and do not have to be renewed on an administration to administration basis.
You misunderatand me. Lets review.

no. 4 is a myth because we know that local law enforcement works with the federal government on immigration issues[287(g)]. That I dont even dispute. That is not the concern with 1070. The concern is NOT that the State of Arizona is enforcing immigration law, it is that the State of Arizona is Writing immigration law. That is the issue, not enforcement.

Now, is it legal for Arizona to write it's own immigration law with no input of the Federal govenment?

Is that Myth? or is it fact?
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